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Just a little warning to inspect your feed.  This hay showed no signs of mold, but it doesn't take much. _________________ Carol Nudell Corazon de Oro Paso Finos "The path to your horse's heart lies through your own." Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.  - Words of Wisdom - Mhar ‎"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss activities; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt Back to top Clarissa Member Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 2623 Location: Gympie, SE Qld, Australia Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:05 am    Post subject: I just can’t think right now what it’s called. But there is an illness horses & cattle get  from eating hay that is contaminated by dead animals killed during the hay making procedure that has similar symptoms to those you wrote of Carol. It can be duck eggs that get broken & trapped in the fresh cut hay. All sorts of animals get trapped in the cutting process, rats & mice, rabbits, snakes, ground dwelling birds, other baby animals. Of course there would be many others aorts of animals in other parts of the world.   _________________ http://clissats-own-page.blogspot.com/ Most of L4 PNH achieved WooHoo!!   Back to top becdubie Member Joined: 23 Jul 2009 Posts: 1335 Location: Montana, near Great Falls Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 3:52 am    Post subject: Botulism.   That's what I was thinking too....Clarissa. I found a dead mouse baled up in one of our bales.   By the time I found it, the bale was 1/2 gone.   I threw out the 2nd half, but I suppose sometimes it happens. _________________ -Becky There is more than one right way! Back to top PasoBaby_CarolU Site Admin Joined: 31 Jan 2009 Posts: 9013 Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:56 pm    Post subject: Botulism and salmonella can both be caused by hay (and pelleted feed) contaminants.   There was a barn full of Belgians lost here many years ago to botulism in there pelleted meal...I think 12 horses.  By the time they found it with the first horse to go down, it was too late for all the horses.   On a sad note, her old horse was put down last night.  She tried many things, bran, oil, etc. and even on massive pain meds he was still in pain.   He was 30 years old.   She put him down at home in his stall with her holding his head.  He was a good horse but it was time. _________________ Carol Nudell Corazon de Oro Paso Finos "The path to your horse's heart lies through your own." Rumors are carried by haters, spread by fools, and accepted by idiots.  - Words of Wisdom - Mhar ‎"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss activities; Small minds discuss people." - Eleanor Roosevelt Back to top Clarissa Member Joined: 10 Feb 2009 Posts: 2623 Location: Gympie, SE Qld, Australia Posted: Mon Jan 16, 2012 2:01 am    Post subject: Botulism  of course! I was thinking Brucelosis which I knew was not the right condition!   _________________ http://clissats-own-page.blogspot.com/ Most of L4 PNH achieved WooHoo!!   Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         It's About The Horse Forum Index -> Medical and Nutrition Discussions All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Rules and How To - PLEASE READ FIRST----------------Bulletin Board RulesBulletin Board SuggestionsHelp Wanted It's About the Horse Chat----------------Horse General ChatHello and Welcome Newcomers!Beyond Parelli - Continuing EducationMedical and Nutrition DiscussionsFarrier and HoofcareBiomechanics and Purity of GaitThe Spirit of the Horse Horses who Need YOUR HelpEventsCome Ride with UsHelpful LinksLive chatHoofbeats in Heaven Levels Chat----------------Level 1 FriendshipLevel 2 PartnershipLevel 3 RefinementLevels 4, 5, and 6 It's About A Horse Learning Library----------------Audition SubmissionsGround Play On LineGround Play at libertyPlaying under saddleGeneral Horsemanship Nonsense and Other FUN things----------------General ChatYouth Forum - A place for young people to gatherIt's not about the MONEYThe Members Only ForumAdult HumorMember LocatorThe BLOG site FOR SALE----------------Horses for sale or leaseTrailers and TackGoods and ServicesThe Trade, Barter, Lend ForumBooks, DVDs, CDs, VHS, buy, sell, trade or looking  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Card File  Gallery  Forum Archive Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group