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Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas?
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ElaineC
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:00 am    Post subject: Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas? Reply with quote

Here's a subject that could never come up on "the other board", but I've always wanted to ask about.  Who does everyone look to, for information, inspiration, learning etc, besides the Parellis?  I own quite a bit of John and Josh Lyon's materials, and really enjoy them.  I also own most of what Pete Ramey has put out.  High on my list to buy as soon as I have some spare change is Karen Rohlf's book and DVD, and more Jaime Jackson.  Then, I'm not so sure, but Klimke, Buck Brannaman and Ray Hunt are right at the top of the list.

Anyone else know of fantastic people doing fantastic things with horses?

I love to learn, and pretty much have adopted the attitude that I'll either agree and use a method, say hmmm and store it, to use it when I do need it, or disagree and be able to say why and what I think is wrong with a method.  Also, if I disagree with a method but someone gives me more information, I do my best to stay open minded and willing to address it again.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:46 am    Post subject: Re: Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas? Reply with quote

Elaine wrote:

I love to learn, and pretty much have adopted the attitude that I'll either agree and use a method, say hmmm and store it, to use it when I do need it, or disagree and be able to say why and what I think is wrong with a method.  Also, if I disagree with a method but someone gives me more information, I do my best to stay open minded and willing to address it again.


Ditto!

I look at almost everyone at least a little bit and decide from there whether I wish to continue to look/learn from them.

Right now I use Library books, and the books that have been mentioned on the other forum as good; such as Pete's Ramey's, and Jaime Jacksons Paddock Paradise, which I got for Christmas.

I also want to take a Dr. Kellon online nutrition course, I want to read Karen Rohlf, and Philip Karl (spelling?) I have one Klimke book--if it is the same Klimke--I have the cavelleti one. I also would like to know more about Pat's mentor's, and other well-known Natural Horse people- such as Buck Branaman, and Ray Hunt, I also like some of Clinton Anderson stuff, and some of John Lyon's--what I have seen anyway. I like the Pony Club manuals--for basic stuff, and I like Centered riding Book 1 & 2 from Sally Swift.

I love surfing the net and seeing what type of info I can find. Amazon is actually a good place to go horse book searching for. I also love going to Libraries...I have found some great books in Libraries.

I'll keep thinking and see if I can think of other people/places that I enjoy learning form.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree.  I think Albert Einstien said something like "The more I know, the more I know I don't know."  and that is my sentiment.  You can never learn too much, even if it is what NOT to do.

I learn stuff from most of the NH trainers, Clinton Anderson, John Lyons, Josh Lyons, Dennis Reid, Klaus Hemphfling.   I might not do exactly what they say, but each has something to offer, more arrows for my quiver.  

For gait, I like Larry Whitesell and Lee Ziegler.   I've learned a lot from traditional trainers, but a lot of it is what I won't do to a horse to get it to gait.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first natural horseman I learned about was Monty Roberts. I don't fully 'follow' Join-Up, etc but the underlying concept that I learned from him was horses could be trained more effectively with kindness than with violence, etc...so I respect him for this.

The Christmas I got Natural Horse-Man-Ship by Pat Parelli, I also got a book by Mike Schaffer called Right From The Start. I've skimmed over it a few times and I think it's pretty good. Here's a YouTube video of him riding a dressage test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0...s.htm&feature=player_embedded

I also have read and learned things from John Lyons, TTouch, Clinton Anderson, Klaus Hemphfling, GaWaNi Pony Boy, Mugwump, Xenophon, Kelly Marks, Mark Rashid, The Dorrance Brothers, Craig Cameron, George Morris, The O' Conners...and, of course, classical dressage masters such as WAZ and Klimke.

I just follow the rule of 'Take what you want, ignore the rest', pretty much
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Love my Mark Rashid books!
Would love to get the Karen Rolfe dvd too!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 7:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am all for learning and I love to explore others.  Amazingly, I haven't done as much as I would like.  

I have books from Mark Rashid, Buck Brannaman, John Lyons, Tom Dorrance, Parelli, Hempfling, Professor Beery, I might have some others but those come to mind.  

I love to watch videos on youtube.  I have watched a lot of Horseproblems Australia.  

I take what I can use from them and leave the rest.  Sometimes I run into a situation that calls for a different tactic.  If it works, great, if not, leave it and try something else.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

At the moment, I am falling madly in love with Brent Graef.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 5:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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At the moment, I am falling madly in love with Brent Graef.


Why?  (Not a question to put you on the defense!)

He's a cutie for sure!  I first met him when he was Dave Ellis' assistant, then later at a 3-day Lee Smith Clinic in Wichita, KS (we were both auditing).


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PostPosted: Wed Feb 04, 2009 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HopeMissouri wrote:
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At the moment, I am falling madly in love with Brent Graef.


Why?  (Not a question to put you on the defense!)

He's a cutie for sure!  I first met him when he was Dave Ellis' assistant, then later at a 3-day Lee Smith Clinic in Wichita, KS (we were both auditing).


Hope


He starts immediately by focusing on lightness and feel.  In other words, someone won't get into L2 with a bracy horse because Brent doesn't even go there.  That's not the PNH slam it sounds like - I just don't know how to say it more succinctly.

I have been a member of his Yahoo group for a long time but have only come to really value what he has to offer since really focusing on my riding.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 1:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Josh Nichols (good articles on his site about lightness and softness)

Harry Whitney

Carolyn Resnick, who IMNSHO has the technique for a foundation on the relationship that should be in place before you ever pick up a halter or carrot stick. Listen to the water hole rituals interview (click on part one because for some reason, the entire interview which is an hour and a half long, is there) on inhorseharmony.com.

DON'T MISS IT.

artofnaturaldressage.com on teaching your horse to do things without even touching them....no MAKE here!

I think it all has a place and we can become even more balanced and rounded, we can't help but to when we sip from the various cups of knowledge that are available to us.

(why isn't your browser open to inhorseharmony.com yet?)
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark Rashid, MARK RASHID ***MARK RASHID***

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His brilliant and quiet concepts and methods involving natrual horsemaship are beautifuly explained in his books
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm currently reading the Klaus Hempfling books with huge interest.

As for the spiritual/energy/life side of it, I can't recommend Linda Kohanov highly enough either!
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As for trainers I find some very interesting points with Leslie Desmond. I was fortunate enough to go see her. I agree with her to some degree.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 06, 2009 11:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Brady is the finest horsemans I have ever had the privilige to learn from. He was like going to a Tom Roberts masterclass and such a nice man. He practices Jim Wilton technique, which is similar to the Tom Roberts technique I have used msot of my horsey life.

I really enjoyed Mark Rashid's book, I learn a lot off my clinical studies and I am priviges to have learned off a couple of equine behavioural scientists, including Andy Beck, during my journey with my shattered colt.

Clinical studies - Catherine Bird, Di Jenkyns (Equinology), the Tallgrass Institute ladies, vets, other clinicians... Whoever will take the time for a few hours to teach me.

My biggest teachers, though, are my boys. I have a paddock of 6 stallions and geldings that teach me something new every day.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 07, 2009 11:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jean Paul Racinet!
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