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Pedestal*Pony

Diesel Trucks ... What maker has the best engine?

Ok, I have come to the conclusion that my 1500 Silverado is too small to haul my big ole honkin 3 horse slant load with half living qtrs and tack room.       It has a nice big engine in it and pulls it but it is hard on the truck.

My husband is out on STD right now because he had lower back surgery and when he goes back to work, I am going to start looking for my perfect truck.  

I know that the Ford 6. engines are bad so if I consider a Ford, it will be a 7.3.

I plan to get at least a 3/4 ton and possibly a 4x4.  It cant be a duley because I drive 35 miles one way to work and I am not going to keep my Silverado so I dont want to have to drive a big ole honkin truck to work every day.  Not to mention, I work at a big hospital so parking spots are small and I dont want to have to shoot anyone for hurting my truck.    

I would like to hear everyones thoughts, likes and dislikes, problems and no problems on the 3 different makers of the diesel engines, Ford, Chevy and Dodge.  Also, the power train, transmissions, etc ...

My trailer and truck ...




Docked by the Bay

Well you will get as many opinions on this as people here who have different brands of trucks.  LOL

I am on my second Ford F350 Powerstroke dually.  It does the job for sure.  However, I think GM products do a better job of the "extras".  

I got rid of my huge trailer and next truck can be smaller and not diesel.  I had to have a diesel back in the rodeo days cause I loved the sound.  What I don't like is finding fuel when I am on a long haul.  And finding diesel pumps with small nozzles.  yep there is a difference between big'uns and little'uns.
Pedestal*Pony

My truck will haul it local just fine but its when we go to the mountains (which is almost every weekend), it about kills my truck.  

I figured I will get many different opinions about the trucks here but then I can read what problems people have had with their trucks and not had.

My brother has a 2007 Dodge Cummins and swears by it.  He has had it for 3 years and loves it and has not had a problem out of it.  Of course he dont pull the weight I would.  He just pulls his 4 wheeler around.  
bit

Tony has the 350 Power Stroke, deisel.  Ok, Tony HAD, now I have.  It has enough breaking power, power power, and tons of room.  King cab gives us that extra tack room, which is why I was able to get a trailer with an actual tack room!  He got tired of my stuff being in the back of his truck, so he bought me a trailer.  lol, then he realized it wasn't his truck anymore. Bwa haa haa!
Pedestal*Pony

bit wrote:
Tony has the 350 Power Stroke, deisel.  Ok, Tony HAD, now I have.  It has enough breaking power, power power, and tons of room.  King cab gives us that extra tack room, which is why I was able to get a trailer with an actual tack room!  He got tired of my stuff being in the back of his truck, so he bought me a trailer.  lol, then he realized it wasn't his truck anymore. Bwa haa haa!


He he he!!!  Love it!  Has he or there been any trouble with it?  Other then routine maintenance things?
Clarissa

Pedestal, I don’t know much about yank tanks but I do know about weight ratios & that is what I was thinking when I saw the size of your trailer & your ute. In Australia the tow vehicle has to be a certain weight ratio to the trailer for safety.

Your ute looks light weight with a 4cylinder engine either petrol or diesel. If it is heavier than it looks & the weight ratio is ok for your road rules, is that the biggest engine that car maker puts in that model? Could you swap the current engine & drive train for a bigger one, thereby killing 2 birds with one stone? You get to keep the same car since it suits your commuting requirements but also be able to tow the large trailer.
merle

The Chevy Duramax is the best diesel/transmission combination.  The 90's Ford Powerstrokes can have transmission problems as can the Dodge Cummings.  The 2000s Ford Powerstrokes can have major, major, major engine problems.  I've had a few friends with 2004 - 2009 powerstrokes end up blowing up the motors.  No fault of theirs.  I have a 1996 F250 Powerstroke with 400,000+ miles, I've had to replace the transmission at about 250,000 miles which it typical.  I love my truck.  I've had Dodge Cummins, had to replace the transmission on it also.  The chevy duramax really is the best engine/transmission.
coveredbridgefarm

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My brother has a 2007 Dodge Cummins and swears by it.
I agree with your brother. I have a one ton Dodge dually with a 6 speed manual  transmission and a Cummins diesel engine. I really like it.

I would say that you need at least a 3/4 ton diesel(heavier duty brakes than your half ton).  Diesel because you pull your trailer in the mountains. Manual transimission because I don't trust automatic transmissions to do much pulling. It doesn't have to be a dually. Dodge, Chevy, pobably doesn't matter. I would probably stay away from Fords based on what I have heard.

Larry
Pedestal*Pony

Clarissa ... My truck is a full size truck.  It is a V-8 with a big engine, it is only a half ton tho.  It pulls Ok but the trailer is too big for it.  I thought about beefing my truck up and have asked a good friend of mine that works at the DOT on their Chevy trucks and he says it would cost alot to do that so midas well get a new one.

I am loving the different opinions on the trucks!!  Keep em comin!!  

Larry, I do plan to get at least a 3/4 ton.  A manual transmission ... I just cant bring my self to do that again.        

I havent had a stick shift in so many years, not to mention, I work in a big city and it would drive me crazy to have to shift all the time.  
Red Rider

merle wrote:
The Chevy Duramax is the best diesel/transmission combination.  


Yep....................
Docked by the Bay

Not sure I agree with larry about manual transmissions.  A lot of truck people will say that many people cannot use a manual transmission as well as your automatic is designed to do.  A lot of big mountain driving may be different.  I have driven both in the mountains and will say that I like being able to use the gears instead of the brakes sometimes, but you need to know what you are doing.  I also prefer the western mountains even tho they are higher they are usually not as demanding as those ungodly steep eastern mountain roads.
Pedestal*Pony

Yes, our mountains here are bad. Not only are they steep but they are constantly switch backing.  So your trying to keep your speed up but not run off the side of the mountain or tip your rig over.    

All I use to drive was manual trucks.  There comes a time in your life when you just don't want to have to shift any more and I'm here.  Old age I guess.       

I try to go easy on my truck breaks by hand applying my trailer breaks.
Docked by the Bay

The worst ride I ever took was going down Mt. Eagle in Tennessee when it has been raining all day, the first time I touched my brakes the whole rig shook.  Nearly had to change my pants when I got down and that is not a bad mountain road at all.
Laurie Archbold

I have to vote for the HD2500 Duramax/Diesel.  I have an 07 and not a lick of problems.. I've been to Virgina, and Wi. a few time and it halls my 3h w/living quarter with no problemo  
I love my truck and take good care of it so it takes care of me on the road  

Laurie
whisperingwindfarms

They'll pry my 97 Dodge Dually Cummins Turbo Diesel out of my cold, dead fingers . . .
calatar

Well I love my 2002 F-250 7.3 but I did have to get a new tranny after my trek out to Utah and back.
karmikacres

No doubt, the 7.3 is a great motor.  From what I hear, the new 6.7 is pretty amazing.  Too bad it comes in a $60,000 truck...


Mike
Pedestal*Pony

karmikacres wrote:
No doubt, the 7.3 is a great motor.  From what I hear, the new 6.7 is pretty amazing.  Too bad it comes in a $60,000 truck...


Mike


Yea no kidding!  I am going to look for a 2005 to a 2007 and see what price ranges those years are holding.

Still not sure what brand.    I wonder if I can just get my brother to GIVE me his truck?    
karmikacres

2002 was the last year fro the 7.3 motor.  The 6.0 goes from 2003 -2007.  The 6.4 2008-2010, and the 6.7 is on the 2011.

The 6.0 can be a decent motor, it just needs a few preventative part exchanges if you are going to work it hard.  It also has a few known issues to look for if getting a used one.

Mike
sebocat

I have had all 3.

My 06 Chevy 3/4 ton Duramax had electrical issues, but the motor was strong.  I didn't like the suspension, it was too soft for pulling heavy loads.  We had to put helper springs on it and hubby did a few other things to help.  This was my least favorite.  We traded it in after only 10 months.

We got an 06 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel megacab that I really loved.  Even with the extra cab room (which was AMAZING) it did well turning and went down the road nice.  We put helper springs on this truck as well.  We hauled HEAVY loads of hay, horses, heavy equipment, huge boats for friends.  It was a work horse and I LOVED it.  Hubby got rid of it because he wanted a 1 ton.  whatever.  The newer Dodge trucks (my Dad has a 2010) have some sort of emmissions garbage that KILLS the fuel efficiency.  You'd probably want an 06.  

I now have a 2011 F350 diesel.  Hubby's new baby.  Lots of bells and whistles, but a lot of towing power and tricks.  It has factory trailer brakes, a traction control system that senses when the trailer starts to lose control and uses the brakes and engine power to strighten you out.  It has a sensor so you can stop on a hill and the trailer wont pull or push you and you dont have to set the brakes.  Dont ask how it works, I dont know.  It also has something like a jake brake.  I am sure these options are available on other makes now.  Suspension is stiff and the truck feels solid.  I hauled a Bobcat on a huge trailer a few weeks ago, and was very impressed with power and control.  It is Ford's new diesel engine this year, I get 18 mph city 20-22 hwy which is similar to the fuel efficiency of the other 2 trucks.  The truck runs quiet.  I haven't had it long (only 1000 miles on it) but I feel a love affair coming.

If I had to pick one?  The Ford, but the Dodge is a VERY close second. Honestly, you couldn't give me back that Chevy (I don't like soft suspension, the seats weren't comfy, and the interior didn't hold up.)
Pedestal*Pony

sebocat wrote:
I have had all 3.

My 06 Chevy 3/4 ton Duramax had electrical issues, but the motor was strong.  I didn't like the suspension, it was too soft for pulling heavy loads.  We had to put helper springs on it and hubby did a few other things to help.  This was my least favorite.  We traded it in after only 10 months.

We got an 06 Dodge 3/4 ton diesel megacab that I really loved.  Even with the extra cab room (which was AMAZING) it did well turning and went down the road nice.  We put helper springs on this truck as well.  We hauled HEAVY loads of hay, horses, heavy equipment, huge boats for friends.  It was a work horse and I LOVED it.  Hubby got rid of it because he wanted a 1 ton.  whatever.  The newer Dodge trucks (my Dad has a 2010) have some sort of emmissions garbage that KILLS the fuel efficiency.  You'd probably want an 06.  

I now have a 2011 F350 diesel.  Hubby's new baby.  Lots of bells and whistles, but a lot of towing power and tricks.  It has factory trailer brakes, a traction control system that senses when the trailer starts to lose control and uses the brakes and engine power to strighten you out.  It has a sensor so you can stop on a hill and the trailer wont pull or push you and you dont have to set the brakes.  Dont ask how it works, I dont know.  It also has something like a jake brake.  I am sure these options are available on other makes now.  Suspension is stiff and the truck feels solid.  I hauled a Bobcat on a huge trailer a few weeks ago, and was very impressed with power and control.  It is Ford's new diesel engine this year, I get 18 mph city 20-22 hwy which is similar to the fuel efficiency of the other 2 trucks.  The truck runs quiet.  I haven't had it long (only 1000 miles on it) but I feel a love affair coming.

If I had to pick one?  The Ford, but the Dodge is a VERY close second. Honestly, you couldn't give me back that Chevy (I don't like soft suspension, the seats weren't comfy, and the interior didn't hold up.)


Wow Suz!  This is pretty cool that you have had all 3 and could give me your opinion on them.  I am pretty sure I cant pull off the 2011 Ford fianancially (the payment would probably be $800.00 a month   ) but I am thinking of going to try the Dodge out when I actually start looking.

Hubby goes back to the Dr this Monday and hopefully he will be released to go back to work.  Then I can get my truck.  
Blue Flame

sebocat wrote:
It also has something like a jake brake.
Otherwise known as engine brakes - uses the engine to slow you down but will only have a braking effect on the driving wheels - saves wearing out or cooking your normal brakes.

It's that annoying loud engine noise you can hear for miles on a big rig decelerating down through the gearbox - not supposed to use them in town due to noise restrictions, but they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compression_release_engine_brake
Red Rider

http://www.popularmechanics.com/c...ws/trucks/4230317?src=mens-footer
coveredbridgefarm

Looks like a bit of a flawed test. The Dodge and Ford trucks were duallies, The Chevy was not. But the trucks still tested very close. A little more polish and the Dodge wins. A little more performance and the Ford wins. As it was, the truck that was not a dually did win, barely. It's probably too close to agonize over a choice between the three. Take the one that you can get the best deal on.

Larry
misstux

If you go with Ford DO NOT GO THROUGH FORD MOTOR CREDIT  I speak from experience.
Pedestal*Pony

Well ok, I've had my first sucky experience with stupid car dealers!  I found the perfect truck Saturday night, put in my application on line, talked to him about the truck for a while on Sunday, called him Monday mid day and he bragged about the truck on how much I will like it and that I will call him and thank him in a week for selling me this truck.

Called him today to find out about the financing and he said he would call me back that he was in the middle of something.  So I gave him over 2 hours and called back.  He tells me that there is a guy on his way with a check to buy the truck and is supposed to be there by 1pm.  

He said I can call back later this afternoon to see if the truck is still avaliable and I said to him, "well if there is someone on their way with a CHECK the truck isnt going to be avaliable later"!  He said yea I guess your right.  Fin Idiot!!!!!

I HATE it when they think cuz we are women we arent smart and all!!  GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!

Back to truck shopping.  Hubby wants me to buy a Ford diesel, a 7.3 but for some reason I just have a chevy in my head.  I guess when the right truck comes along, it wont matter what brand.
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