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cheerios

Making my own pedestal.....

I really want a pedestal. (Actually, I want several of them...)

I would like to make one myself, as I can't afford to pay several hundred dollars for one. However, I'm not that handy with tools, so I'm searching for ideas that aren't too complicated/complex.
I would like something that is moveable, which rules out just filling a tire with dirt.

I really like this design (http://click-ryder.blogspot.com/2009/04/horse-pivot-platform.html), which looks to me like just a sheet of plywood attached to a tire. I just don't know what the best way would be to attach the wood to the tire. Also, do you think it would be strong enough to hold a really big horse?

Or, any other ideas for simple pedestal designs?
southoftheborder

Making my own Pedestal

Cheerios,
That's EXACTLY what I want to know too! I just got two big giant old tractor tires yesterday------step 1. I want to know how thick the plywood should be and how to attach it also. So I'll be waiting to hear along with you. Will go to the link you provided.
Hertha

If you don't need to move the pedestal, it works for me to fill the tire with rocks, gravel and some lime mix on the top.

Another one I filled with dirt and seeded the top with grass.  I use it in the summer mainly.  The horses keep in nicely grazed down.

It's important to fill the sides of the tires with rocks/bricks before filling in the middle.
Pedestal*Pony

Maybe I am wrong but the tire looks to still have the rim in it.  Also it looks like the plywood is at least 3/4" thick.  If you make this you can always double up the plywood to make it more secure.  

My friend gave me a big plastic pallet and I just screwed some indoor/outdoor carpet on the top.  Works great and I can move it with ease.
sebocat

I posted this a while ago, but at the clinic I attended this summer, they filled rubber fortex feeders with spray foam and topped it with a piece of plywood and attached the two with carriage bolts.

They were light weight, affordable, and held some big horses.

I wish I had photos.....
Pyrgirl

sebocat wrote:
I posted this a while ago, but at the clinic I attended this summer, they filled rubber fortex feeders with spray foam and topped it with a piece of plywood and attached the two with carriage bolts.

They were light weight, affordable, and held some big horses.

I wish I had photos.....


Spray foam?  I'm not familiar with that.  Where do you get it?
This sounds like a good idea for us - I need pedestals for my minis and this would be lightweight and not so tall.
Clarissa

I just use 2 shipping pallets stacked & the top one has a sheet of plywood screwed to it. I put an old mat over it incase of Sonny slipping as he gallops up to & jumps onto the pedestal.

If it needed to be moved I could just move each pallet seperately. If I wanted a taller pedestal & could just add another pallet. That would make it all about 16" high.
Gismo

Pyrgirl wrote:
sebocat wrote:
I posted this a while ago, but at the clinic I attended this summer, they filled rubber fortex feeders with spray foam and topped it with a piece of plywood and attached the two with carriage bolts.

They were light weight, affordable, and held some big horses.

I wish I had photos.....


Spray foam?  I'm not familiar with that.  Where do you get it?
This sounds like a good idea for us - I need pedestals for my minis and this would be lightweight and not so tall.



http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?ac...d=13617-236-227112&lpage=none

http://fortexfortiflex.com/
Pyrgirl

Gismo wrote:
Pyrgirl wrote:
sebocat wrote:
I posted this a while ago, but at the clinic I attended this summer, they filled rubber fortex feeders with spray foam and topped it with a piece of plywood and attached the two with carriage bolts.

They were light weight, affordable, and held some big horses.

I wish I had photos.....


Spray foam?  I'm not familiar with that.  Where do you get it?
This sounds like a good idea for us - I need pedestals for my minis and this would be lightweight and not so tall.



http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?ac...d=13617-236-227112&lpage=none

http://fortexfortiflex.com/


Thanks Gismo.  It's off to Lowes for me.
I already have the fortiflex feed pans
cheerios

okay. so just get a feed pan and fill it with spray foam.

this sounds too easy!

pyrgirl-- if you try it this weekend, will you let us know how it goes?
Pyrgirl

cheerios wrote:
okay. so just get a feed pan and fill it with spray foam.

this sounds too easy!

pyrgirl-- if you try it this weekend, will you let us know how it goes?


I need a little more info. on how you attach the plywood with carriage bolts.  Do you bolt through the wood, foam, and bottom of pan?  That's a long long bolt!
sebocat

The bottom of the feed pan is what will now be the top of your pedestal. you will drill a hole in the feed pan and the plywood that you cut to size. The smooth part of the bolt faces "up" so that the tail of the bolt and the nut will face "down and provide a little bite to keep the pedestal from slipping around. Does that make sense?  You then tighten everything up with lock-tight, and voila!
Gismo

Any welder can put this together for you...... Very strong and kinda cheap and light weight..... can be made square also.





You also asked if a dirt filled tire will hold a BIG horse.... The answer-----\/











Another type of stand......


horselover

Hubby made this for me a couple of weeks ago.
Found the mat in Tractor Supply.  
Pedestal is made of 4x4s on each edge, with a couple of smaller cut ones in the center bottom for support.  3/4" ply on top, then washers under the head of the screws so that the screws wouldn't get sucked into the rubber mat, then tear the mat.
I also put liquid nails (comes in a tube) around the edges of the mat/wood so that the mat wouldn't lift up if a horse paws at it.  It isn't that heavy, its a little longer than wide so the horse feels more confident getting all 4 feet on it, its no slip, and its NICE.  If you wanted it taller, you could use something larger than a 4x4 (6x6 for instance) but this is perfect!  My horse loves it.



underneath
Pyrgirl

horselover wrote:
Hubby made this for me a couple of weeks ago.
Found the mat in Tractor Supply.  
Pedestal is made of 4x4s on each edge, with a couple of smaller cut ones in the center bottom for support.  3/4" ply on top, then washers under the head of the screws so that the screws wouldn't get sucked into the rubber mat, then tear the mat.
I also put liquid nails (comes in a tube) around the edges of the mat/wood so that the mat wouldn't lift up if a horse paws at it.  It isn't that heavy, its a little longer than wide so the horse feels more confident getting all 4 feet on it, its no slip, and its NICE.  If you wanted it taller, you could use something larger than a 4x4 (6x6 for instance) but this is perfect!  My horse loves it.



That's really nice!   How heavy is it?  Doesn't look like it would be too much to move around.   Nice job!!!

underneath
southoftheborder

Speaking of Tires

Not sure if it was Gizmo's playyard or not, but someone had some tires cut in half and sunk in the ground a little, to use as a jump. How do you cut these suckers in half? I have access to some really huge tractor tires that I would consider doing this with. Would a chainsaw do the job? And could I see that picture again, please?
cheerios

Re: Speaking of Tires

southoftheborder wrote:
Not sure if it was Gizmo's playyard or not, but someone had some tires cut in half and sunk in the ground a little, to use as a jump. How do you cut these suckers in half? I have access to some really huge tractor tires that I would consider doing this with. Would a chainsaw do the job? And could I see that picture again, please?


This thread:
http://itsaboutthehorse.myfastforum.org/about1158.html

has tires cut in half and Gismo explaining how he did it.
cheerios

another random question as long as we're talking about building/making things.

where do you buy round pieces of lumber for ground poles and jump poles?

I went to home depot the other day, and they didn't have any round pieces, just the rectangular ones with the rounded edges.
Gismo

cheerios wrote:
another random question as long as we're talking about building/making things.

where do you buy round pieces of lumber for ground poles and jump poles?

I went to home depot the other day, and they didn't have any round pieces, just the rectangular ones with the rounded edges.



Schedule 40 , PVC pipe in the plumbing dept. Any size you need, any length you need (up to 20 foot) and you can paint it with stripes or use tape on it.

We use left over fence posts for ground poles. or PVC pipe
Playenatural

Re: Speaking of Tires

southoftheborder wrote:
Not sure if it was Gizmo's playyard or not, but someone had some tires cut in half and sunk in the ground a little, to use as a jump. How do you cut these suckers in half? I have access to some really huge tractor tires that I would consider doing this with. Would a chainsaw do the job? And could I see that picture again, please?


No Chainsaw and tires!  Danger!  The metal in the tire can wrap around your chainsaw.  Use a Sawzall.
southoftheborder

Making my own Pedestal

Cheerios,
Thanks for the link. I was a little afraid of the chainsaw idea. That's why I asked. Don't have a sawzall, shucks.........might have to go the handsaw (long) method or give up the idea. But THESE tires are gigantic!

What a great play yard Giz has. My place is too small for much, PLUS I have to hand carry everything in and out, or it would simply walk away during the night. So I'm limited.
Pyrgirl

Finally got all the stuff to try out this pedestal made out of a feed pan and filled with foam.  I have a 6 gallon rubber feedpan.  First step is to cut out a circle of plywood to put on the top (actually it is on the bottom of the pan).  I'm really curious to see how many cans of this foam stuff I'm going to need to fill a 6 gallon tub.  They had some 16 gallon pans, but I thought I'd try a smaller version first.  If it works, this could be a really cool pedestal.  Will report back.
carefreegirl

cheerios wrote:
another random question as long as we're talking about building/making things.

where do you buy round pieces of lumber for ground poles and jump poles?

I went to home depot the other day, and they didn't have any round pieces, just the rectangular ones with the rounded edges.


I have PVC pipe, about 3 to 4 inches in diameter, and about 4 feet long, you can put two together or keep them separate to either have a narrow jump or a normal jump. They have worked great and have had them for about 4 years. They are pretty thick, not skinny pvc pipe material, which would be to flimsy. and the PVC pipe is much lighter then a normal wood pole, so much easier to move around.  
PasoBaby_CarolU

Our feed store has the round posts (fence posts).  They are also pressure treated.  I am with Grant though, PVC works better and the horses don't eat it.   It's also light and easy to carry, move around, etc....and it's already WHITE!  :-)   No paint required.

The easiest pedestal is a heavy pallet covered with 3/4" plywood.  The second easiest is a tire filled with sand, manure, or cement.
Pyrgirl

PasoBaby_CarolU wrote:
Our feed store has the round posts (fence posts).  They are also pressure treated.  I am with Grant though, PVC works better and the horses don't eat it.   It's also light and easy to carry, move around, etc....and it's already WHITE!  :-)   No paint required.

The easiest pedestal is a heavy pallet covered with 3/4" plywood.  The second easiest is a tire filled with sand, manure, or cement.


Looking for lightweight and movable here.  The last one I had weighed about 100 lbs.  I couldn't lift it.  It got washed away in the flood!!!!  Only thing the flood didn't take with it was the fencing that got wrapped around the trees.  
I need something I can move out of the pasture before the creek floods.
jwilhite

southoftheborder

How to Make a Pedestal

So I finally got around to filling up one of my big tractor tires with sand.
AND I was able to actually get my more difficult guy to actually play "King of the Mountain"!!!! Used clicker training. Then before I knew it, he was offering it on his own on the first session! The only thing  I am concerned about tho, is he paws away at the sand, and I find myself hoping he doesn't get a hoof somehow stuck under the tire rim. I need to refill it before the next session.

I have another even bigger tire that I want to put plywood on, so it's a different surface and is about 3" higher. This is to help them learn to deal with the wood and steel ramp they need to use to get into the back of my pickup. They have had only two lessons getting into that truck, but one of my horses takes a flying leap and I want him to be more calm about it.
PasoBaby_CarolU

Pat, it's funny you mention offering it.   When Rosie was a yearling, there was only so much I could play with her.   We quickly went through so much.  I taught her to get on a pedestal, and after that, each time I'd be working with a different horse, she'd go climb on the pedestal and tap her foot to get my attention.   She's 6 now and STILL offers to get on pedestals...of course she tries to get on things that aren't pedestals too!   LOL

If you do plywood on the surface, I'd rough up the surface so it provides some traction.  I'd also round the corners so they aren't sharp, and I'd prevent horses from getting on it when it is wet.   I keep my plywood pedestals under cover to protect them...and my horses.
southoftheborder

Making my Pedestal

Carol, Yes I plan on having the corners cut. And I plan on putting rubber on top of it. This tire is 4ft in diameter and 17 1/2" wide (hi) and will be higher with the added ply and rubber. This is the same height as the step up into my truck. I know I will not be moving it around. I'm also planning on adding two 4"x4" perpendicular supports underneath for stability, so it doesn't end up bowing in the middle.

The tire with the sand is not quite as large and about 2" shorter in height which is why I'm getting them used to that one first.
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