| Archive for It's About The Horse The Free Forum for those Doing Parelli - and a whole lot More! "Anything forced and misunderstood can never be beautiful." Xenophon (430-355 B.C.), |
| Julie |
New articlehttp://www.jonibentley.co.uk/articles/less.htm |
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| PasoBaby_CarolU |
Excellent article Julie. Really speaks to the respect and bit thread. EVERYONE should read this~! | ||
| Niek |
The totilas discussion is everywhere. The biggest horse board here in the netherlands ( the biggest of the world actually) has a 59 page (and growing) discussion on him. I saw it on Coth, we had it here, and ofcourse now its there to :9. Its a nice article to read 
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| Jeanette |
What is the jaw relaxation exercise that Joni is talking about?
..and what is the Philippe Karl one that is so misunderstood? Worried now! |
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| ElaineC |
Very nice article
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| DaisyMae |
No need to worry 
Basically, what Phillipe teaches in this respect is that low hands (what everyone seems to be taught these days) can actually create tension and resistance in the horse. When the bit works against the tongue and bars of the mouth, it hurts, and the horse's natural reaction is to resist, which often causes an ignorant rider to hold the horse in even harder. With Phillipe's method, you lift your hands, bringing the action of the bit onto the corners of the mouth rather than the bars. This only works if you have fully understood the concept, and have followed the initial stages of training the horse with this method, as explained by Phillipe in his first DVD 'the school of aids' (brilliant DVD, I can highly recommend!) Instead, what a lot of people seem to be doing is simply hauling the horses mouth up to their ears with no release, with poor results as you'd expect! |
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| Jeanette |
Ah, thanks for explaining what the common fault was with applying PK's work.
I have the first Philippa Karl DVD but not the book (have just ordered it!). I've just started teaching my youngster about the bit but we havn't got beyond simply putting it in and out yet!...I didn't want to mess up when it came to doing his first real exercise! I think Alexandra Kurland's work makes you pretty attuned to releases! I agree with you about the DVD it's really good. I love the simple luneging he does at the beginning..so much more fun that circles routed to the spot...helps that he's french of course, the voice is hypnotic, I hear him as I'm working..."all you can do is bend a bit the horse" |
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| DaisyMae |
I've caught myself telling Merlin to "ecoute monsieur" on more than one occasion
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| Sunny |
dressageGreat article. I particularly liked this phrase:"Riders need, as we both agree, to do less and feel more. To think and give the horse time and space to react." It's been more than ten years since I've been in a dressage ring, so I'm greatful for all of your posts here and on the dressage thread. I'm learning a lot. On thing that really bothers me is the tight nosebands. (I know not everyone does this). One girl would have to use a pair of pliers to get her horse's noesband tight to her liking. Just made me want to smack her and take her horse away! I've heard it said also, that the foamy mouth is because the horse can't swallow his saliva while working because the noseband is so tight. That this is abusive behavior and shouldn't be rewarded. For example, you try working out with your teeth clamped together for an hour or more. How can a horse possibly relax his jaw? Sorry if this was discussed previously, I'm just getting caught up with you all. |
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| Julie |
My horse has a foamy mouth and no noseband! Def not from not swallowing - he is so chilled and soft its unreal, suing the reins is like lifting a tiny peice of cotton and he is there with you all the way! | ||
| Jeanette |
If only it were always like that though eh Julie? I had a great session this morning and drove to work absolutely please as punch and well chuffed with myself....then when I tried it this evening it was rubbish....my boy was more interested in the non existant bogey man the other side of the hedge..hey ho!...that's what keeps us going I think....we get a tiny moment of excellence and then we want it more and more! | ||
| Jeanette |
Oh God, I'm the same...only the expression I like is "lenteeeement"....the other one I like (but not for my yongster ) is gal - LOPe!..so much nicer to say than canter |
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| Niek |
Re: dressage
lipstick foam = ok. Buckets full of foam going all over the the fq of the horse = bad. It actually relates to the amount of pressure in the mouth. There is so much they cant swallow. The tight nosebands just prevent escape like behaviour like gaping mouths. I dont have a noseband btw
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| ElaineC |
I refuse to tie my horses mouth shut. I know there's a time and place, but even then I refuse to put them on tightly. At one of the local tack shops I frequent, there's a few dressage bridles in the used section. They are high quality, lovely leather, very nicely made, and the crank nose bands make me cringe. These things are designed to go insanely tight, rollers on the buckles and rings to get leverage for tightening, they are pretty awful. I can't imagine how anyone would think they are a good thing. | ||
| Julie |
Just because a noseband is there, doesn't mean it tight. I use one for competitions etc but its always loose. |