Purity of gait segment on SC dvd

Autumn · Purity of gait segment on SC dvd

Leah, care to restart that conversation here? I was learning lots! Anyone know a link where we can SEE what true purity of gait is??

Niek

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EPa7cTjlvA8

a stallion of similair breeding.. He could have a bit more carriage.. But well... I hear all these people that apperently think Alure moves like a star. If hes moving like a star this horse is a meteorite (I can pick a million and one wbs here that are bred and butter that probably move better than alure does atm)

I know this horse is ridden but i dont think for the sake of purity in this discussion it mathers much

Chris

PasoBaby_CarolU

What a beautiful floating trot! Awesome.

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I know the subject was hashed out pretty well before, but I think we can all agree that Allure moved better one direction then the other and obviously was in pain on the one side (wasn't that to the right?). Now that MAY have happened with a trip a few minutes into the tape, or before, but regardless, he should have been treated for the lameness and put away and NOT used that day.

That tape could be used to show what purity isn't.

Yes_But_Neigh

I wish I could find youtube video's of my favorite WB stallions, Romantic Star and Lankoenig. I worked with 16 of RS sons at Euro Pferde in Oregon and his babies were incredibly talented and all had what looked like butter hips just like him. They moved so incredible it just looked like liquid. Here is a video clip of Landkoenig in hand. Under saddle he doesn't have Dressage movement but I still like him. http://www.rainbowequus.com/mpeg/landi2.mpeg
Okay well I found a video of Romantic Star. Nothing looks as good as that stallion that was posted before but I would be interested to hear what you guys think. I rode Reno Star and he was incredible.

http://www.europerformancehorses.com/rs_video.html

Blue Flame

I saw an Arab Stallion the other day who would make that trot in the first pic look quite ordinary. The difference was that with the stallion I saw, his feet spent more time in full suspension than they did on the ground. The horse in the first clip, although having suspension, the time in suspension when all four feet are off the ground (or hang time in basketball speak) is brief compared with time when there is hoof (any hoof) on ground. The Arab stallion I saw, the hang time was at least twice as long as the foot on ground time (that's any foot, not just looking at one pair) and the elevation was amazing.

As I've mentioned before, always be careful not to mistake high leg action for suspension (hang time) and elevation (height of body above ground). The Arab stallion did not have to have a high leg action even though he was moving in tall grass because his springiness or elevation moved his body so far above the ground that his legs could be straight and still be well clear of the ground during the suspension phase.

Imagine the type of boxer who dances about on his toes - he spends more time off the ground than on it - that's how I see "light on his feet".

As is typical, the camera was not to hand when I saw this display . . .

But here's a pic I found on the internet which goes about halfway to the elevation I saw in the Arab stallion (who BTW didn't have that hooked neck that I find so strange like the one in this pic).

Notice that the horse achieves the elevation above the ground by springing his whole body upwards rather than just picking his feet up with a high stepping action.

Yes_But_Neigh

Blue Flame:
Do you have the name of that Arab stallion? I would love to do some research! Arab's are very dear to me, as my fancy mare was half.
Thanks for your post!

Niek

@ Blue flame. With arabs it can be decieving though.

another arab. They bounce around really easily.

How ever we can look at all these fancy dancy movers, but thats quality of gait. Purity is decided by footfalls and rythem

, even the uglyst movers could be pure. They just lack quality

Horse Gypsy

I think purity of gate has to do with rhythm and tempo. Any horse can have a pure trot- as long as it is a nice regular rhythm not speeding up or slowing down and is something that can be maintained. I thought that segment was just about the worst SC segment I had ever seen, really made me start questioning Linda's competence to teach us anything- I had just bought Karens DVD Riding in connection with the reins- and I am sure Ovation is just as challenging as Allure -and Karen deals with everything like it is no big deal. All you here from Linda 5 years later is stuff about Allures past- give me a break.

We could talk about tracking up??

I got my first half arab a few years ago- man they are addicting- I bought her because she had the cutest gates ever- and she is half percheron so she is an easy keeper and really solid and sturdy- and my plan is to breed my next horse out of her by breeding her to a nice Warmblood stud- as long as she passes the breed inspection- but I think she will, she is quite talented for what she is- I saw her clear a 10 foot creek bed no problem as a yearling!

jokersmama

Loved to see the heel first landings in that first clip.

creekwood

horse in the first pic has a wry tail. major fault.

And yes, movement is a lot different than purity of gait.

Yes_But_Neigh

Creekwood:
Can you explain why a rye tail is bad? I know it looks different from the other Arab's flipped over the back tails... is it hereditary like a hernia?

creekwood

It is hereditary. It is a conformation fault, and a horse with a wry tail should never be bred, and yet, I see more horses popping up with those buggers

Yes_But_Neigh

Oooo hopefully it isn't becoming a trend? Or just lazy breeding? I called it a Rye tail oh man, whoops!

Yes_But_Neigh · Okay okay okay!

Can we critique my (well now he's an A circuit fellow for someone else) Thoroughbred stallion KC King's Command?
I have no idea how pure or not pure he was but I was in love with him and he was an incredible friend.
This was probably 6 years ago, please excuse my horrible attempt at keeping up with him. I am highly un-athletic.

This guy was not quite 3 years old here and barefoot. (Trimmed by a regular trimmer.)

Blue Flame

Horse Gypsy

The horse in the pictures that looks like a TB to me- Looks like he isn't coming through his back- leg mover not back mover. Hind end is out behind him also. All of those things can be fixed-

whisperingwindfarms

Stupid question - what's a "wry tail"? Never heard that expression before.

Edited to add: Never mind. Googled it. Now I know. Never heard it called that though.

Yes_But_Neigh

Horse Gypsy:
Are you talking about my TB stallion?
He had a Dressage rider get on him to break him and I think she worked on his gaits. He was so incredibly lazy that we dubbed him slow joe monroe! He covered a lot of mares but wasn't fertile so he was gelded and sent to the hunter A circuit. Who knows what happened to him, but I agree. He doesn't use himself very well. Wry tail: I asked the same question and creekwood answered.

Yes_But_Neigh

Not sure if I mentioned it, but the top two are pictures, the rest is video footage, if you click on the picture it will play.

Purity of gait segment on SC dvd

Okay okay okay!