Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas?

ElaineC · Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas?

Here's a subject that could never come up on "the other board", but I've always wanted to ask about. Who does everyone look to, for information, inspiration, learning etc, besides the Parellis? I own quite a bit of John and Josh Lyon's materials, and really enjoy them. I also own most of what Pete Ramey has put out. High on my list to buy as soon as I have some spare change is Karen Rohlf's book and DVD, and more Jaime Jackson. Then, I'm not so sure, but Klimke, Buck Brannaman and Ray Hunt are right at the top of the list.

Anyone else know of fantastic people doing fantastic things with horses?

I love to learn, and pretty much have adopted the attitude that I'll either agree and use a method, say hmmm and store it, to use it when I do need it, or disagree and be able to say why and what I think is wrong with a method. Also, if I disagree with a method but someone gives me more information, I do my best to stay open minded and willing to address it again.

carefreegirl · Re: Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas?

PasoBaby_CarolU

I agree. I think Albert Einstien said something like "The more I know, the more I know I don't know." and that is my sentiment. You can never learn too much, even if it is what NOT to do.

I learn stuff from most of the NH trainers, Clinton Anderson, John Lyons, Josh Lyons, Dennis Reid, Klaus Hemphfling. I might not do exactly what they say, but each has something to offer, more arrows for my quiver.

For gait, I like Larry Whitesell and Lee Ziegler. I've learned a lot from traditional trainers, but a lot of it is what I won't do to a horse to get it to gait.

Gallop On

The first natural horseman I learned about was Monty Roberts. I don't fully 'follow' Join-Up, etc but the underlying concept that I learned from him was horses could be trained more effectively with kindness than with violence, etc...so I respect him for this.

The Christmas I got Natural Horse-Man-Ship by Pat Parelli, I also got a book by Mike Schaffer called Right From The Start. I've skimmed over it a few times and I think it's pretty good. Here's a YouTube video of him riding a dressage test: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0...s.htm&feature=player_embedded

I also have read and learned things from John Lyons, TTouch, Clinton Anderson, Klaus Hemphfling, GaWaNi Pony Boy, Mugwump, Xenophon, Kelly Marks, Mark Rashid, The Dorrance Brothers, Craig Cameron, George Morris, The O' Conners...and, of course, classical dressage masters such as WAZ and Klimke.

I just follow the rule of 'Take what you want, ignore the rest', pretty much

creekwood

Love my Mark Rashid books!
Would love to get the Karen Rolfe dvd too!

bchorse

I am all for learning and I love to explore others. Amazingly, I haven't done as much as I would like.

I have books from Mark Rashid, Buck Brannaman, John Lyons, Tom Dorrance, Parelli, Hempfling, Professor Beery, I might have some others but those come to mind.

I love to watch videos on youtube. I have watched a lot of Horseproblems Australia.

I take what I can use from them and leave the rest. Sometimes I run into a situation that calls for a different tactic. If it works, great, if not, leave it and try something else.

whisperingwindfarms

At the moment, I am falling madly in love with Brent Graef.

HopeMissouri

whisperingwindfarms

appellativo

Josh Nichols (good articles on his site about lightness and softness)

Harry Whitney

Carolyn Resnick, who IMNSHO has the technique for a foundation on the relationship that should be in place before you ever pick up a halter or carrot stick. Listen to the water hole rituals interview (click on part one because for some reason, the entire interview which is an hour and a half long, is there) on inhorseharmony.com.

DON'T MISS IT.

artofnaturaldressage.com on teaching your horse to do things without even touching them....no MAKE here!

I think it all has a place and we can become even more balanced and rounded, we can't help but to when we sip from the various cups of knowledge that are available to us.

(why isn't your browser open to inhorseharmony.com yet?)

NoTackNoShoesNoProblem

Mark Rashid, MARK RASHID ***MARK RASHID***

:D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

His brilliant and quiet concepts and methods involving natrual horsemaship are beautifuly explained in his books

LiveLaughLove

I'm currently reading the Klaus Hempfling books with huge interest.

As for the spiritual/energy/life side of it, I can't recommend Linda Kohanov highly enough either!

Savvy_Life

As for trainers I find some very interesting points with Leslie Desmond. I was fortunate enough to go see her. I agree with her to some degree.

Nashama

Steve Brady is the finest horsemans I have ever had the privilige to learn from. He was like going to a Tom Roberts masterclass and such a nice man. He practices Jim Wilton technique, which is similar to the Tom Roberts technique I have used msot of my horsey life.

I really enjoyed Mark Rashid's book, I learn a lot off my clinical studies and I am priviges to have learned off a couple of equine behavioural scientists, including Andy Beck, during my journey with my shattered colt.

Clinical studies - Catherine Bird, Di Jenkyns (Equinology), the Tallgrass Institute ladies, vets, other clinicians... Whoever will take the time for a few hours to teach me.

My biggest teachers, though, are my boys. I have a paddock of 6 stallions and geldings that teach me something new every day.

Julie

Jean Paul Racinet!

Niek

Yes_But_Neigh

Anyone know where Roberts is based out of?
A TB colt that my mom and I bred went to Monty for training and he liked him so much I guess he bought him from the lady that was going to stand this colt.
It would be interesting to see how this colt is doing esp since one of Monty's guys rode him at 2 years old (OUCH

)
I hope he is okay.

Yes_But_Neigh

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I don't know. I like Monty it just sort of makes me wonder how Bellaire is doing since his stomach here is so tensed up and he was started with no preperation at all this guy just got right on him.

Julie

Whats jaime Jacksons paddock book like?

Has anyone tried the dr cook bridle

Julie

Ok off to read Phillipe karl just so as we can discuss!! Poor racinet had an accident a few weeks ago and is gravely ill.

ElaineC

Clarissa

Pat's ex right hand man Ken Faulkner. Anyone been around long enough to remember him? Even before Linda the Aussies were influencing what happened!

Anyway he & Pat had a falling out over how the HQ yield could cause the shoulder to drop & tense the horse so they agreed to disagree & Ken set out on his own. The first of many PP's to leave the fold.

I had many lessons from him at clinics & I have always liked his style. Actually I have to credit him with most of my foundation NH learning & when I reply to posts where people need help, it's Ken's teachings I usually draw on in my answers. He went to a lot of effort to learn classical dressage from places & people like Nuno Oliveiro (sorry if misspelt), lippizana school in Vienna (is it?) & such.

I'm sure he still teaches in Europe & UK & Japan as well as Australia.

Well I'm off to bed now at precisely 2am Australian time
cheers & night, night sleepy2

kristie

whisperingwindfarms

I loved watching Chris Cox ride that gran prix jumper this week. That was a blast!

Pyrgirl

Karen Rohlf

Extravert

Honza all the way. I did 3 days with him a couple of weeks ago and it has given me so much understanding - not just of the parelli program but also about liberty, collection and relationship with the horse. The guy is amazing. I am hoping to visit his place in czech republic this year for more study!

I am also studying under a UK classical dressage instructor called Perry Wood www.perry-wood.com and have also studied with another ex-parelli instructor Steve Halfpenny (he's done a great footfalls DVD)...he sat on my horse for the first time (I did all the pre-prep stuff) and you know - my horse NEVER bucked - once! Awesome. Also read loads! Mark Rashid, Buck Brannaman, Dr Miller, Linda Kohanov. Also found 'the nature of horses' by stephen budianski very interesting. Just reading another book now called 'the emotional lives of animals' and also got a jung by my bed, and just read 'the shack' and also a book about wild horses in australia!!

Lots of exploring going on

Niek

Extravert if you know perry wood you must know Alice to

Extravert

Alice?????? I have lessons with him at a friends house with a group of people... there's a sue, a barbara, a kelvin, a steve, not sure I remember an alice!!

That doesnt mean I don't know her mind you!!

Niek

Extravert

Excellent for her!! He is an interesting teacher. I am seeing him on 3rd March for my next lesson so I will mention this to him.

Oh and I forgot to mention one of my current dressage hero's - Ferdi Eilberg.... he has a series of masterclasses being aired on Horse & Country TV here in the UK and his teaching is SPOT ON!! IMHO!

Horseshoe Creek

I have Jonathan Field's 10 DVD set and it is excellent. He is an ex-Parelli instructor in Canada. His DVDs are very good for showing excellent details. I also like how he uses some green horses for the beginning stages of either Ground or Riding.

I'd recommend them in a heartbeat, especially for novices.

Chris

I really like a local NH instructor named Chris Lombard. His business and clientele is growing steadily, and he's just about to put out his first DVD.

Lots of Parelli students in the area love him and take lessons and clinics from him. He is very accessible (as well as less expensive), and boy is this guy SMART---he takes wherever the student and horse are coming from (dressage background, hunter jumper, etc.), and works within that frame of reference as much as he can, unless he sees an owner is wanting to make a complete 180. He NEVER makes anyone feel wrong and always respects (within reason, of course), what the rider/owner has done with their horse up until that point.

He never creates an "me vs. them," attitude. He knows full well I do PNH, and always has a positive word to say and praises me for what I've been able to accomplish with my various lease horses. I've never heard him say an unkind or disparaging word about any other trainer/clinician, ever.

Here's his website: http://www.chrislombard.com/

PasoBaby_CarolU

I just wanted to say that there are some CLASS acts around. For kicks last night I clicked on the John Lyons Trainer Kieth Hosman (banner ad at top of forum frequently) and looked through his site. He has links to Parelli, Anderson and Lyons sites and Instructors.

I was quite impressed with his openness about other NH teachers and methods. KUDOS!!! I signed up for his newsletter.

happycat

Yes_But_Neigh

Oh man! There was a google ad for Josh Lyon's assistant. Sign up now and learn how to cure: Bucking, Biting, Leading, Monsters.
Oh jeeze!

PasoBaby_CarolU

Josh Lyons is very good. He beat Pat in one of those NH contests they used to have where they'd all start an unbroke horse and work with it for three days. Josh won.

Niek

i do however wonder if winning that is good or notr...

ElaineC

The only one I know of where Pat was against Josh, was documented in "In a Whisper". I really like it, for so many reasons, its worth watching over and over. What really entertained me, was the cross section overview it gave of each trainer.

Pat - used every toy and product he could get, to get screen time with it. Sad but true. At the end, had to do something show-off and just... well, Pat.

Josh - shut up, used very few different tools, and got the job done. At the end, decided what he was going to do as a finale, said it, taught it, did it.

Craig Cameron - more traditional buckaroo style, let em buck with the saddle, used a jaquima, had a grand ole time.

The training methods I was most impressed with was Josh's, and it showed in the horse. I can't think of how many times I've gone over it with a fine tooth comb. I've gone to see Josh in a couple of symposiums now, and I can't say enough about how much he impresses me with his good humour, and quiet way of just getting on with things. He knows the kissing he does is annoying - he says its his worst habit and one he wants to get rid of, but its not likely :\

Edited to add: They didn't have 3 days - they had 3 hours, in downtown Fort Worth, TX! Insane.

cynthia peterson

I seen the "In A Whisper" too. And you sure have it right. I came in thinking, no way Josh won. HE probably used the tricks, pushed the horse too much, blah, blah...

Then I watched the DVD. I seen a whole different Pat. And I think the DVD isn't that old. First, Pat gets a horse that cannot "go" a certain way (I think I remember it as right) So Pat actually fights with the horse to go the WRONG way, the way it can't go. If you (or a horse) are afraid, you can't use your non dominate side, it's against nature. So, the horse goes dominate RB, Pat gets mad, and gets no where with that, so he ends up with a horse that he got little from the horse. Just what he deserved.. Pat's" take the time it takes"~ flew right out the window. Then he ~of all the hair brained things~ stands on this poor horse that he knew could bolt out underneath him. So he gets right in the open gate (so he can swing off if he has to) and takes his shirt off and waves it around like he won! Now, Pat was in his really out of shape days~ and taking that shirt off was not welcome.

But, Josh just quietly works away. Gentle and careful, and his horse is way far ahead of everybody. The other contestant, Craig Cammeron drew a pretty tough horse, and he did a fair job.

If I was Pat I would buy everyone of those DVDs and burn them.

I may not be the best horse trainer in the world, but even I know to get the horse "with me." Expecially a young horse that is untrained. I'm going to have to get some confidence in letting the horse go the way it can first. To do it any other way will case untrust and fight that will never get me anywhere!

LiveLaughLove

Whoever mentioned Monty Roberts, I think there was a few of you. I saw him in November and although I respect him for trying to promote treating horses better; he has the personality of an amoeba and I didn't see him do anything that some traditional people wouldn't do. The only difference was that he didn't beat heck out of them, that's always good to see.
I think join up is all advance with no retreat which will anger some LB horses and put some RB horses on the ceiling! And so many people I know who followed the IH (intelligent horsemanship, his teaching) way said there was no where to go beyond join-up and no answers. One of his pupils nearly got really hurt because he and Kelly put her in a compromising position with a heavyweight 16.2h cob, that really ticked me off. Anyone who would care to diss Parelli can't deny that at least they teach safety to their pupils first.

cheerios

I love Mark Rashid.

I also really love Karen Pryor and Alexandra Kurland.

Pryor's classic book "Don't Shoot the Dog" is a wonderful book about learning, teaching and motivation. Basically, there's usually a better solution than just shooting the dog.

I also really love the philosophy and principles of Bob Bailey. He really understands how animals learn and how to get and maintain behaviors. Bob Bailey was clicker training before there was such a thing as clicker training and was instrumental in teaching many of today's top dog and dolphin trainers. Currently he holds workshops where he teaches people (mostly professional dog trainers) the principles of training by making them train chickens. I guess, if you can train a chicken you can probably train anything.

horsesrlife · I admit I follow Dennis Reis too

I could never say this over there... but I have been following Dennis Reis for some time now. I have really enjoyed it. I went to one of his stops last year and my husband bought me the complete kit. I watched it and I like it alot. So many different things. But the paralels (sp) are amazing. there is more Horsenality and psychology explained with PNH, but Dennis does some great things too. Plus, you can actually ride with Dennis. You get to go to the source with him. I like that alot.

Thats basically the only other NH person I follow.

Peeperpuppy

I have a wish list.
I would like to have (over look my bad spelling):

Karen Rolf's book/dvd.
Walter Zettl's complete dvd set
Alois Podisky's book "My horses, My Teahers"
Ray Hunt dvd's

I have Ray Hunt's Colt Starting. I really enjoy it but it wouldn't be so easy for folks not through the levels.

I used to have all the John Lyons tapes but didn't really care for all that round pen stuff. I found I had more disconnect with horses than I wanted. I stll have John's book & enjoyed it immensely. I find these days I'm at loose ends. I don't find anyone that gets me excited to learn from them.

JoyoftheHorse

Ray Hunt is the best!

Michael Gonzalez is Great too! www.lessismorehorse.com

I also really like Karen Scholl, Wrangler Jayne, Carlos Tabernaberri, and Mark Rashid.

ice'n'rein

I have been fortunate to audit Ray Hunt and ride in clinics with Jack Brainard, Lee Smith, and Kathleen Lindley. I've found that what I learned from them all flowed easily into what I had accompished with PNH.

AkHaffy

I did ride Monty in a clinic last summer w. Kathleen Lindley(one on one sessions) and also attended most of the her other sessions as an auditor. It was great-more practical advise to sponge in. I was also fortunate to ride in a weeklong clinic w. Mark Rashid last summeras well using one of his horses. So I'd have to say that these 2 are the tops for me. Saw a Ray Hunt clinic in the late 1980's-my first natural horsemanship exposure-awesome.
Besides Karen and Walter Zettl, I also really like Jane Savoie's info-free info from her on Utube, as well as a free newsletter.
Also, she has a monthly membership-and will even critique your own video and answer questions-directly with her! I haven't done that yet, but am considering it.......
Marion

AkHaffy · Brand new idea for me

Have to add to my post -I just saw "The path of the horse" by Stormy May- I think this is going to be an integral part of how I relate to my horses...

Annie

Who besides Parelli do I look for ideas? I look to my horses for Ideas, the best teachers I have ever ran across!!

I expect nothing from my horses, and appreciate everything they show me and tell me and offer me.

Perhaps they can't give me the vocal cues on how to hold this object or that object for training, but they can tell me when something wasn't done correctly, they can show me in their body language if I can advance or not, they can show me what went wrong, they can show me how to improve by their acceptance. Most of all, they can show me that my skills have improved and if I am doing something right or not. They ARE my teachers!

I have come to learn that if I will pay them the honor by listening to what they say with their body language, I will learn everything I need to know. I will learn when to add a leg, when not to, when to do what if it's not happening. It perhaps may take a bit longer then someone else standing there giving me cues... but I have also learned that my horse knows best and will react and show me when something is right or not. It creates opportunity for me to work on my communication with my body as well as finding the right "fix". It's not easy learning this way, it takes time, and patience and dedication and the willingness to shut your thoughts down and really learn how to "hear your horse". It takes the ability to figure out what to do differently with your own body for "togetherness" balance.

I know this sounds extreme, but it's true. I really allow my horses to be my teachers. We teach each one another along our journey... For every question that someone asks me.. what if you want to learn how to do such and such.. how is your horse going to tell you how to properly do that.. well.. that pretty much answers itself.. if I will LISTEN to my horse I will hear and feel when it's not correct, I will be able to try different cues, i will be able to listen when it IS right.

I don't want a step by step journal or manual to learn to go places with my horse, I want to really LIVE the journey and know that we are creating our own manual along the way. What better teacher could you have other than your own experiences?!?!

Annie

Happyappy98

Nice Annie!!! hello1

Hertha

Annie,

How did you get to this place with your horses?

I'm enjoying www.wranglerjayne.com.au.

She's very clear. Has a demo horse that is still in the process of learning.

Pyrgirl

LyndaAtkinson

Linda Tellington Jones has some very good ideas on horse massage that I use often when horses are anxious. Sally Swift has good ideas on imagery in riding. Have enjoyed clinics by trainers using her ideas.

John Lyons was the first natural horseman I studied, and still like his work.

LiveLaughLove

Nashama

Pyrgirl, I have them and they are excellent. I also have her float loading. As I have said elsewhere - this is the program am mentioning to adult beginner clients with their first horse.

peachpie · clicker trainer

I like Leslie Pavlich, a clicker trainer. Also, I like Alexandra Kurland, a clicker trainer.

Hertha

[quote="Pyrgirl"]

JoyoftheHorse

Thought I'd let everyone know that we are the U.S. distributor for Wrangler Jayne's DVD's. If anyone is interested, our website is www.royalhorsecompany.com

appellativo

Hertha, I'm not Annie, but for me, in order to 'get to that place' I had read several books and resources to instill the idea in me and give me ways to proceed.

First, I began exploring the Art of Natural Dressage website, namely the forum (theres a getting started thread and beginning exercises under practice: groundwork)

Then I familiarized myself with the Carolyn Resnick water hole rituals via the online interview and DVD (see the Carolyn Resnick thread on this forum and also the SC forum if you are a member, although much of the same info is here.)

I also read the book What Horses Say by Anna Clements Mews

It's a little bit of a rough shift going from where I was (parelli mindset, four phases, using the snap to cause pain/compliance, etc) to understand how could I make the switch to not demanding, but really partnering, being creative, and asking and engaging my horse. I learned the first hints of it with Parelli but CR and AND blew the doors open.

Then I watched Klaus Ferdinand Hempfling's video Dancing with Horses and am reading his book. This gives the whole 'way to be' and also some technical on body language, positioning and cues. I suppose a slight parallel or comparison would be it's sort of like showing you Level four liberty in parelliland.

I also read Mark Rashid's books (Horses Never Lie, Considering the Horse, and Life Lessons from a Ranch Horse...start with the latter.) As blue flame pointed out, some of mark's things he used with some horses and clients horses were for practical and time reasons (such as tying up a leg) falling short, but in his book he tells about learning from his mistakes and learning a lot from his horse on being open to the horse's communication and what he has to offer and learning from the horse the characteristics that are conducive to harmony, sensible leadership and softness.

See also the Path of the Horse thread and my extensive notes on the video. This too is a good tool to study over and over if you are just beginning to toy with this idea/mindset.

appellativo

I hope these links work.

thread on the AND site with links to different questions/subjects:

http://www.artofnaturaldressage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=2101

AND thread entitled, "should the horse always say 'yes?' "

http://www.artofnaturaldressage.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=119

Pyrgirl

[quote="Hertha"]

Julie

Also richard maxwell, have just watched is dvd and he has taken the basis of methods and has produced something worth watching! very impressed

peachpie · Relaxed riding

Does someone have a dvd Relaxed Riding they would sell for less than new? I'd sure like to see her work, but don't have much extra dough to buy new.

LyndaAtkinson

Has anyone been to a clinic with Josh Nichols. In another post, I believe Deb Bennett recommended him. His parents live near our farm and he has been here for two clinics. My friends think he is really good. I intended to go to his clinic last year but ended up being double booked and couldn't get to it. Any one here with any experiences???

appellativo

Have you read the articles on Josh's website? He's got really good articles! :D (Why did that feel like I was complimenting him on a nice butt??)

Here's a good one.

http://www.joshnichol.com/articles/Equus.pdf

gaiting lady

I love Liz Graves for my gaited horses. She is awesome. For general horsemanship, other than Parelli, I put Cris Cox up there really high. He is excellent and good at moving a person a notch or two past their comfort zone. Parelli is my basic program--it is so low key and helpful for us older riders. I like my horses comfortable and quiet and that is what Parelli does for us.

Marilyn

sjarvis

I've ridden with
Ray Hunt
Bryan Newbert
Jack Brainard
Kirsten Neilsen (x-pnh instructor, now in FL) I am taking a lesson from her this weekend she is visiting her Mom in NE.
Richard Winters (he just won road to the horse last week)
Ken McNabb

I love reading Eclectic Horseman and am renewing my subscription now since my savvy club runs out at the end of April and I am not planning on renewing.

I plan to ride with Karen Rohlf this year. I have her book and DVD and LOOOVVVEE it!!

I have enjoyed and learned different things from all of the above.

Of course I read everything I can like Dorrance, Rashad etc.

I tried to get to a Brent Graaf Colt starting this spring, but my schedule with my own clinics all interferred with it. But someday I would really like to go learn from him.

then I have audited all the others like Reis, Clinton, Cox, Goodnight, at expos etc.
But my favorites are the ones listed above which I have ridden with.

Horse Gypsy

Karen Rohlf
Enlightened Equitation
Buck Brannaman
Ray Hunt
The Dorrances
WAZ
PK

Those are on the current list.

Interesting how Pat acted when he had competition for attention- I have never seen that video.

Hertha

Just found this guy yesterday. Andy Beck BTB NZ

BTB stands for bitless, treeless and barefoot. He has some interesting articles on his site. A good critique about the pitfalls when seeking a genuine mentor / teacher in the NH field.

Just realised I don't have his actual IRL, will post it later.

Horse Gypsy

I want to go up to Alberta this summer and watch a Josh Nickol clinic-- and then maybe I will bring a horse up there the next time. He is suppose to be really good. From where I stand at this point- I would rather go to those who have made a name for themselves, than go to a Parelli pro who is 5 steps down the ladder from Pat and has really not hands on field experience. Josh apparently spent a lot of time with Harry Whitney.

whisperingwindfarms

Hello from Karen Rohlf land! It's me and Babs. Today was Day One of Finding the Sweet Spot. We are in awe.

Karen is amazing! We can't wait for tomorrow!

Erin

jwilhite

Julie

anyone else use TTouch - Linda tellington Jones

We had a pony with colic and I helped a girl who knew about ttouch work on him - one side each - did what she said. The difference in him was amazing - enough for me to want to learn more. Anyone any idea which book etc is best to buy?

Karen

Sammy425

Sunny

Does anyone here have direct experience with Leslie Desmond?

Here's some more great FREE information for you folks looking for more.

http://www.lesliedesmond.com/index.php?id=27

Gismo

Just MNSHO but I have found that "experience" is the best teacher...
You can go to all the clincs for all the big names and come home and think about what you saw and heard for months, read the books, watch the videos, discuss everything on the forum and even go sit with your horse for hour's at a time........ BUT........ If your butt aint in the saddle applying whatever works for you and your horse, your just a dope on a rope.

Experience is the only teacher I have found that actually works for me and mine, I look to all the teachers for ideas, then go out to experience what happens when I apply the ideas working with my horse. Some work, some dont and the only way to find out is to shut down the computer, turn off the video, get off the couch and go ride or do ground work and see if my horse and I can come to a agreement.

Saddle time, just do it.

Pain is also a great teacher. (as in , dont forget to tie the cinch)

4theloveofjake

Amen Grant !

jackspark

No one person has all the answers. It seems, and rightly so, that "they" all have their own philosophies. I began with John Lyons and found Pat Parelli. This moved me on to Hunt/Dorrance. Along the way I fell in love with Clinton Anderson and Parelli protege Dennis Reis. Mark Rashid pointed the way to Akido and TaiChi which helped me in ways I can't explain. I continue to read everything I can get my hands on and I always take something away with me. If anyone has a new direction to point me in I'll gladly go!
I think I forgot to mention Julie Goodnight she has given me a few pearls lately.

Hertha

Cynthia Royal is an interesting study

www.IMAGINE-DiscoverTheMagic.com

CRoyal · Website Correction for Cynthia Royal

Hertha

Is that you, Cynthia????

Just this morning I watched your first Bridleless Riding DVD lent to me by a friend.

Really enjoyed it. Am trying very hard to make people aware of Carolyn Resnick's and your ritual ideas in terms of building the relationship on the ground at liberty.

I think if people could gain this sort of confidence without using gear, they would become a bit more aware of just how co-ercive we tend to be as soon as we have gear on the horse.

I've had good success with using click/treat when riding, focusing especially on the halt and have had no problem carrying the treats myself which gives a lot of flexibilty when riding as well as building the lateral flexion muscles quite nicely.

appellativo

Ha ha! Speak of the devil! I have put both Cynthia's videos (well, two of them anyways) into my queue and am eagerly awaiting viewing them! I love this forum, everybody cool is here.

Hertha

You won't be disappointed.

I've seen the 4-day clinic DVD's, the Relationship one, and now the liberty riding one.

CRoyal · Roual Approach 3 Volume DVD Self Study Series

Thanks for all the good words from those of you who have been following our journey of clinics and performances across North America or seen our DVDs.

When we filmed our DVD training series back in 2007, we didn't focus on the positive response-based system we use as an underlying, but critical part of our process. It just wasn't the focus at the time, which was instead sharing our updated version of 'ethology' based on more current equine psychology, culture, socio-dynamics, the preditor/pray dynamic and it's implications in our ability to then better communicte with the horse in a non-agressive way.

Since then, yast year, we tried to include in our most recent 4-DVD volume (now called Volume I - Intro to the Philosophy and Approach) more of our holistic philosophies of naturalizm and minimalism.

So we're ready to focus for 2010 on the positive reward based systems that solidifies all our other techniques and is what we believe to be the glue to horse/human relationship success. AS such, we're going to be filming and releasing several times a week a series of small how-to videos from everything of teaching the horse not to snoodle for his reward (whether food or other reward), exhibiting behavior modification of such dangerous behaviors as bolting, rearing, biting, striking, kicking all solved through positive reward. It will be an eye opener how we can actually successfully reproram the horses behavior with positive reward, rather than negative consequence, in a very short amount of time.

We'll also demonstrate some of the more fun elements such as teaching the laydown, spanish walk, fetch and lots of other fun behaviors, so the equine world can become more proficient in the timing, awareness and application of working from a base of positive reward, rather than the standard of pressure or consequence.

So in the next couple weeks, we'll be bringing online a website where you'll be able to watch and rewatch video shorts of our daily training of all of the above, using various types and personalities of horses. You'll get to watch 1st hand as we shape their behaviors into good and fun equine citizens all through our contemporary methods. In addition, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions online for answer direct from me, as well as interact with, share and learn from other's practicing the approach. Shoudl be a great learning experience for everyone to add new tools to their bag of training tricks.

The BEST way to keep up with all these happenings is 1st to join Facebook and friend Cynthia's page and FAN the Equine Psychology Center page. She's doing a lot there in prepraation for this worldwide training event, so if you're not already on Facebook, we encourage you to join now so you can start learning, share your opinion on what this learning mechanism looks like as we deploy it and be ready for the launch when we drop the trigger!

Also, you can currently leave a horse challene question in the 'Discussions' section on the Equine Psychology Center Page, where Cynthia is currently answering all the questions weekly.

Cynthia Royal's Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1033152451

Equine Psychology Center (see 'Discussions' area for recent Equine problem solving tops: http://www.facebook.com/profile.p...&sid=1033152451.2598022147..1

TWITTER: http://twitter.com/Cynthia_Royal

PS - we are looking for interns (some positions don't have to be local to us) who want to come on board and learn our business and become a part as it infolds. So if you have any of these skills:
- video editing (must be in Southern California),
- are a Facebook Guru,
- know website membership subscription service dev/admin
- are a writer in style to compliment Cynthia's
- or are an innovative positive-reward based horse trainer with trick training skills (must be in Southern California)
- live-in part-time barn/facility manager (must be in Southern California)

If any of this tickles your nickers, we'd LOVE to hear from you.

So lots of opportunities to learn, become involved, grow and share the journey together!

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Yeah I know. sometimes I feel like a goof...but I even glued rhinestones to my parelli rope halter. They are small so they look good, not too gaudy...

How is the progress on the Arabian rescue herd? I would love to see more of them!! (I watched a video on them yesterday when they were tearing around and it looked like you were explaining to a fair newbie about horse behavior)

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Who besides Parelli do you look to for ideas?

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I admit I follow Dennis Reis too

Brand new idea for me

clicker trainer

Relaxed riding

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My 'Inspirators'

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