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LiveLaughLove

Worming Friendly Game..

Hi all,

I've just wormed my lot and although they were good, I'd like to get it better. I remember seeing on the Parelli material that they suggest using apple sauce in a tube so that the horses are pleasantly surprised and don't always assume that it's going to be bad-tasting stuff. However, with 3 tubby ponies, anything with high sugar content like that is a huge no no. Can anyone suggest anything that won't be a moment on the lips, forever on the hips (or laminae)?
Mandy'sMarty

How about a blend of water and apple cider vinegar?
PasoBaby_CarolU

I use applesauce and don't worry about the tiny amount they get in 10 cc (ml) of applesauce.   I use a syringe and give 10 cc a day to train them for a few days.   Once trained, they remember.   On worming day I give 10 cc, then the wormer, then a chaser of 10 cc more.  

I should tell you that Bruiser HATES the applesauce and prefers his wormer straight, and this method has made one of my other horses a whore about syringes...he grabs them, bites them and ruins them, so I have be VERY careful worming him.   He psycho for the applesauce.  

I do find it's a very good method.  Keeps worming very easy.  

There is also apple flavored wormer...Exodus, I believe.   You can skip the hor d vor and chaser with it.  LOL
LiveLaughLove

Thanks for the tip Marty, I hadn't thought of apple cider vinegar.
Carol, I suppose there can't be much sugar content in 10cc. Your comment about your apple sauce junkie made me chuckle, horses are so entertaining.
Julie

Apple sauce if you get the baby puree one should not have added sugar, and you can also water it right down, or even use apple juice!
MollyMule

friendly worming game

Although most of my critters like the applesauce "wormer", a couple do not.  So I have also used carrot baby food or molasses.  One of my mules did not like the applesauce, but loves the Gerber baby carrot food.  Another likes the molasses, but won't touch anything else.  So you might have to experiment.

Janet

P.S.  Two of my mules love the friendly wormers, but know instantly when it's the real wormer.  (Dang smart mules!).  One of them is the same for practicing shots.  (Intent is everything...sigh....) lol
4theloveofjake

And why I ask can't they just make the medicines, electrolytes, etc, taste good and save us all the hassle ???
bit

Have you ever tasted cherry flavored cough syrup?  They can't even make it taste good for a human.  I wormed with the apple flavored stuff yesterday.  Hawk told me to tell you guys that if this tasted like apples, he was a border collie.  Yuck, yuck, and double yuck.  They love the apple sauce, and know when it's wormer.  Eclipse spits out any chaser, no matter how yummy.  
Is it a 24 hour, not feel so great thing with wormer?  I always used to get my horse wormed and shots on the same day, and can't remember.  I know shots can make them feel under the weather, but wormer too?
new2thejourney

I have been thinking and re-thinking of this thread since I read it and I love thinking!

I was once, on a trail ride on my own on Rocky.  It was HOT, HOT, HOT and I had water with me, but none for him.  Long story short, I could give him water out of my water bottle, but only because he trusted what I would give him.  I had previously, on hundreds of occasions given him a  probiotic yummy  (called Yakult)  that he loved.  Now, I thought of your question and I thought the probiotic may not be appropriate because of worry of founder.  Just a few days ago I was playing with the new horse, Bundy, who is a good doer and I wouldn't like to make him fat or invite founder...so we played, on a HOT, HOT HOT day with a water bottle.  As skeptical as he was at the beginning, by the end he was lifting his lip and sucking the water in.  It got me thinking about your question and I wondered....does it have to be yummy and 'bad' for you?  or can it just be something yummy - like water on a hot day, or water when you are REALLY thirsty and it would give the same impression to the horse.  

From the horse's point of view prior to friendly game:

"Hmmmmm....every time she/he comes at with me with a thing full of stuff it tastes worse than dirt!  No WAY!!  am I letting her/him NEAR me with it!"

Orrrr...

"Hmmmm......sometimes she/he comes at me with a thing full of stuff and
sometimes it is refreshing stuff like water and sometimes it tastes funny.  Wonder which one it is this time?  Hmmmm.....best I give it a try."

I don't KNOW if it will work, but I would give it a go, every day for 7 days with a syringe and see what the horse's opinion was if I was in your position.  

Just some food for thought.

Karen
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