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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just MNSHO but I have found that "experience" is the best teacher...
You can go to all the clincs for all the big names and come home and think about what you saw and heard for months, read the books, watch the videos, discuss everything on the forum and even go sit with your horse for hour's at a time........ BUT........ If your butt aint in the saddle applying whatever works for you and your horse, your just a dope on a rope.

Experience is the only teacher I have found that actually works for me and mine, I look to all the teachers for ideas, then go out to experience what happens when I apply the ideas working with my horse. Some work, some dont and the only way to find out is to shut down the computer, turn off the video, get off the couch and go ride or do ground work and see if my horse and I can come to a agreement.

Saddle time, just do it.

Pain is also a great teacher. (as in , dont forget to tie the cinch)
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 16, 2009 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amen Grant !  
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No one person has all the answers.  It seems, and rightly so, that "they" all have their own philosophies.  I began with John Lyons and found Pat Parelli.  This moved me on to Hunt/Dorrance.  Along the way I fell in love with Clinton Anderson and Parelli protege Dennis Reis.  Mark Rashid pointed the way to Akido and TaiChi which helped me in ways I can't explain.  I continue to read everything I can get my hands on and I always take something away with me.  If anyone has a new direction to point me in I'll gladly go!
I think I forgot to mention Julie Goodnight she has given me a few pearls lately.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cynthia Royal is an interesting study

www.IMAGINE-DiscoverTheMagic.com
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 3:32 pm    Post subject: Website Correction for Cynthia Royal Reply with quote

Hertha wrote:
Cynthia Royal is an interesting study

www.IMAGINE-DiscoverTheMagic.com



NOTE:  The IMAGINE website's focus is Cynthia's entertainment work.  Her training and approach are featured on the Equine Psychology Center website at www.RoyalEquineAcademy.com .

She researches, tests and teaches a contemporary brand of 'equinology', leveraging the latest in  equine psychology, society, culture and the predator/prey dymanic, with a foundation throughout of using ONLY positive response-based techniques.
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 14, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Is that you, Cynthia????

Just this morning I watched your first Bridleless Riding DVD lent to me by a friend.

Really enjoyed it.  Am trying very hard to make people aware of Carolyn Resnick's and your ritual ideas in terms of building the relationship on the ground at liberty.

I think if people could gain this sort of confidence without using gear, they would become a bit more aware of just how co-ercive we tend to be as soon as we have gear on the horse.

I've had good success with using click/treat when riding, focusing especially on the halt and have had no problem carrying the treats myself which gives a lot of flexibilty when riding as well as building the lateral flexion muscles quite nicely.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha ha! Speak of the devil! I have put both Cynthia's videos (well, two of them anyways) into my queue and am eagerly awaiting viewing them! I love this forum, everybody cool is here.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You won't be disappointed.

I've seen the 4-day clinic DVD's, the Relationship one, and now the liberty riding one.
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 8:58 am    Post subject: Roual Approach 3 Volume DVD Self Study Series Reply with quote

Thanks for all the good words from those of you who have been following our journey of clinics and performances across North America or seen our DVDs.  

When we filmed our DVD training series back in 2007, we didn't focus on the positive response-based system we use as an underlying, but critical part of our process.  It just wasn't the focus at the time, which was instead sharing our updated version of 'ethology' based on more current equine psychology, culture, socio-dynamics, the preditor/pray dynamic and it's implications in our ability to then better communicte with the horse in a non-agressive way.  

Since then, yast year, we tried to include in our most recent 4-DVD volume (now called Volume I - Intro to the Philosophy and Approach) more of our holistic philosophies of naturalizm and minimalism.  

So we're ready to focus for 2010 on the positive reward based systems that solidifies all our other techniques and is what we believe to be the glue to horse/human relationship success.  AS such, we're going to be filming and releasing several times a week a series of small how-to videos from everything of teaching the horse not to snoodle for his reward (whether food or other reward), exhibiting behavior modification of such dangerous behaviors as bolting, rearing, biting, striking, kicking all solved through positive reward.  It will be an eye opener how we can actually successfully reproram the horses behavior with positive reward, rather than negative consequence, in a very short amount of time.  

We'll also demonstrate some of the more fun elements such as teaching the laydown, spanish walk, fetch and lots of other fun behaviors, so the equine world can become more proficient in the timing, awareness and application of working from a base of positive reward, rather than the standard of pressure or consequence.

So in the next couple weeks, we'll be bringing online a website where you'll be able to watch and rewatch video shorts of our daily training of all of the above, using various types and personalities of horses.  You'll get to watch 1st hand as we shape their behaviors into good and fun equine citizens all through our contemporary methods.  In addition, you'll have the opportunity to ask questions online for answer direct from me, as well as interact with, share and learn from other's practicing the approach.  Shoudl be a great learning experience for everyone to add new tools to their bag of training tricks.  

The BEST way to keep up with all these happenings is 1st to join Facebook and friend Cynthia's page and FAN the Equine Psychology Center page.  She's doing a lot there in prepraation for this worldwide training event, so if you're not already on Facebook, we encourage you to join now so you can start learning, share your opinion on what this learning mechanism looks like as we deploy it and be ready for the launch when we drop the trigger!

Also, you can currently leave a horse challene question in the 'Discussions' section on the Equine Psychology Center Page, where Cynthia is currently answering all the questions weekly.

Cynthia Royal's Facebook:  http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?ref=profile&id=1033152451

Equine Psychology Center (see 'Discussions' area for recent Equine problem solving tops:  http://www.facebook.com/profile.p...&sid=1033152451.2598022147..1

TWITTER: http://twitter.com/Cynthia_Royal

PS - we are looking for interns (some positions don't have to be local to us) who want to come on board and learn our business and become a part as it infolds.  So if you have any of these skills:
- video editing (must be in Southern California),
- are a Facebook Guru,
- know website membership subscription service dev/admin
- are a writer in style to compliment Cynthia's
- or are an innovative positive-reward based horse trainer with trick training skills (must be in Southern California)
- live-in part-time barn/facility manager (must be in Southern California)

If any of this tickles your nickers, we'd LOVE to hear from you.

So lots of opportunities to learn, become involved, grow and share the journey together!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Roual Approach 3 Volume DVD Self Study Series Reply with quote

CRoyal wrote:


So we're ready to focus for 2010 on the positive reward based systems that solidifies all our other techniques and is the glue to long term success of your training.  AS such, we're going to be filming and releasing several times a week a series of small how-to videos from everything of teaching the horse not to snoodle for his reward, exhibiting behavior modification of such dangerous behaviors as bolting, rearing, biting, striking, kicking all solved through positive reward.  It will be an eye opener tro most how we can actually reproram the horses behavior with positive reward in a very short amount of time.  

We'll also demonstrate some of the more fun elements such as teaching the laydown, spanish walk, fetch and lots of other fun behaiors, so the equine world can become more proficient working from a base of positive reward, rather than the standard of pressure without the benefit of positive reward.

So in the next couple weeks, we'll be bringing online a website where you'll be able to see our daily training around here of shaping colts, integrating recently gelded and still intact stallions and full staillions as we shape their behaviors into good and fun equine citizens.  Shoudlbe a great documentary evolution for everyone to watch!  



I am very interested in this!
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

appellativo wrote:
Ha ha! Speak of the devil! I have put both Cynthia's videos (well, two of them anyways) into my queue and am eagerly awaiting viewing them! I love this forum, everybody cool is here.


LOVe the halter - BLING is such an important part of life!  ~ Cynthia
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I know. sometimes I feel like a goof...but I even glued rhinestones to my parelli rope halter. They are small so they look good, not too gaudy...

How is the progress on the Arabian rescue herd? I would love to see more of them!! (I watched a video on them yesterday when they were tearing around and it looked like you were explaining to a fair newbie about horse behavior)
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:03 am    Post subject: My 'Inspirators' Reply with quote

jackspark wrote:
No one person has all the answers.  It seems, and rightly so, that "they" all have their own philosophies.  I began with John Lyons and found Pat Parelli.  This moved me on to Hunt/Dorrance.  Along the way I fell in love with Clinton Anderson and Parelli protege Dennis Reis.  Mark Rashid pointed the way to Akido and TaiChi which helped me in ways I can't explain.  I continue to read everything I can get my hands on and I always take something away with me.  If anyone has a new direction to point me in I'll gladly go!
I think I forgot to mention Julie Goodnight she has given me a few pearls lately.


Lessee:

My dad, for his genes and lessons
Helen Lindquist, childhood mentor and Incitor of Perpetual Curiosity
My grandmothers, for teaching me to knit, sew, read, embroider, make cookies
My Judo and Karate sensei's.
Joseph Campbell (http://jcf.org/new/index.php)
Barry Bosold
Tom Dorrance
Bill Dorrance
Ray Hunt
The Parellis
Karen Rohlf
Walter Zettl
Barbara Sheldon
Caleb
Delphi
Milwaukee
Perry
Kokomo Joe
Sam & Jack Chase
MnLINC
All the dance instructors whose names have been blurred by time, except Dennis, from Nigeria who taught me rhythm comes from the soul.
The US Army, for teaching me how tough I could be, which has been helpful in out-persisting a certain fur-daughter.
Nursing school
My college calculus instructor who made us solve the equations in long-hand, for refining problem-solving, process, and using my brain
......  
and all the opportunities to test character and coping skills


I am forever grateful, though I may not seem like it sometimes.

E-Lizzie
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 29, 2010 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: My 'Inspirators' Reply with quote

BeginnersMind wrote:







I am forever grateful, though I may not seem like it sometimes.

 I'm thinkin that we might be forever grateful for you Lizzie!

Be careful, this can be quite addicting!
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