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becdubie Member

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Location: Montana, near Great Falls
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 2:34 pm Post subject: |
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I dont' think it's a ration balancer but I bought some nutrena safe choice yesterday. It's nutrient dense with controlled starch...they recommend feeding about 2-3lbs a day.
$15.00/50lb bag, so I can't feed it as a main food, but will start putting it in with their beet pulp they get 3-4 times a week. They all love it. I printed off severl $5 coupons so that'll save me some money over the next several months. Gotta start making sure Bubba is ready for winter......LOL!
I've got to get Bubba off the senior feed he is on...it's too expensive and pretty high in sugar, he doesn't need those empty calories....but he does need the extra calories in something. _________________ -Becky
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jackspark Member

Joined: 10 Jan 2010 Posts: 4477
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 1:04 am Post subject: |
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Bought some beet pulp shreds today. My gelding is needing some extra and I thought I'd try it. So........ how much do I give and how often? He is thin and really needs to put some weight on. I changed his pellet amount by making a mash. He was having trouble with them before. Also what kind of oil do I add? Regualr vegetable of Canola or...... _________________ Nancy
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Clarissa Member

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Location: Gympie, SE Qld, Australia
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 4:52 am Post subject: |
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Nancy I just got my feed recipe analyzed by Kohnke’s using that computer software 'FeedXL' & she told me all I needed to add was canola oil for omega3. I add sunflower seed to my feed which is omega6 & just needed to balance that. They offered me a ‘complete’ oil supplement with all 3 omegas in it but I will just buy canola from the supermarket again & feed 1/4cup daily. That will provide the correct ratios of 3&6. The omega9 is already in his other feed. _________________ http://clissats-own-page.blogspot.com/
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Copious_Amour Member

Joined: 06 Jun 2011 Posts: 247
Location: California
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Clarissa,
Is it dangerous to feed BOSS without the canola oil? Just started my two on a very small amount of BOSS and am now wondering if I need to balance it with canola oil which would be easy to do if need be |
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Clarissa Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:21 am Post subject: |
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| Copious_Amour wrote: | Clarissa,
Is it dangerous to feed BOSS without the canola oil? Just started my two on a very small amount of BOSS and am now wondering if I need to balance it with canola oil which would be easy to do if need be |
Yes with what I think I have learnt from feeding it last year, I would say you should balance it since it is very one sided to the omega6 which is inflamatory. However it would also be wise to look into the formulated oils that contain all the omegas in correct ratios & then feed extra BOSS for specific reason like coat gloss or in Friday night feed ready for hard work energy over the weekend. _________________ http://clissats-own-page.blogspot.com/
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Copious_Amour Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 6:25 am Post subject: |
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Yes with what I think I have learnt from feeding it last year, I would say you should balance it since it is very one sided to the omega6 which is inflamatory. However it would also be wise to look into the formulated oils that contain all the omegas in correct ratios & then feed extra BOSS for specific reason like coat gloss or in Friday night feed ready for hard work energy over the weekend. |
Okay thank-you. I kind of added it blindly. Found it at the feed store and thought "oh that will be good to add to their diet" and started putting about 1/4th of a cup mixed in with the rest of their feed. I should definitely research it further, possibly they don't even need it. |
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jackspark Member

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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 3:34 pm Post subject: |
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High crude fiber in pelleted feed can cause weight loss? If you decrease the amount of fiber you decrease the about you need to feed? Been reading some about diet.
Do companies add crude fiber to decrease the feed price? So do ya end up feeding more to keep weight on?
Thanks Clarissa, I'll be adding some oil too! I have Canola so that is where I'll start. _________________ Nancy
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Clarissa Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:01 am Post subject: |
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High crude fiber in pelleted feed can cause weight loss? (YES)
If you decrease the amount of fiber you decrease the amount you need to feed? (YES BUT BE CAREFUL)
Do companies add crude fiber to decrease the feed price? (YES)
So do ya end up feeding more to keep weight on? (YES)
I feed a processed feed to Sonny now which I discovered last year called Promita made in this country by Mitavite. I’ll photograph the analysis panel so you can compare with feeds in your country.
It is full of goodies much more than all other feeds & suited to this sub-tropical coastal area. It is also VERY EXPENSIVE!! But I only needed to feed ¼ the recommended amount for Sonny to put on all the weight he wasn’t able to hold & then I cut it back even further during the summer to just 1 small handful daily. Now with winter here again & my horses restricted in range this year due to the hoof issues I am feeding 1 cup x twice daily. Still very economical but does work out at $2kg so every individual pellet is worth picking up if spilt!
The Mitavite website is
www.mitavite.com.au
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jackspark Member

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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:27 am Post subject: |
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Thanks Clarissa, good to have the label to look at! It's becoming an issue.....two hard keepers and two easy keepers  _________________ Nancy
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stella Member
Joined: 24 May 2011 Posts: 35
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 6:18 pm Post subject: |
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Nancy, I've been using Calf Manna for about 35 years(when it was still owned by Carnation, even), for a variety of horses/reasons, and I think it does a great job balancing the diet. I use it on horses that need better bloom, underweight/overweight, mares with foals, foals that need more nutrients for growth, etc. So, I'd have to call it "tried and true," very reliable.
Its also relatively inexpensive, as it only takes a bit...being I have Pasos, which are smaller, I tend to use less per horse than recommended, and can see the difference within 2 weeks, usually.
I average 30 head of horses, for many years now, so have a good bit of experience with it, and it hasn't let me down yet. |
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