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Peeperpuppy
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Thanks Carol. Sometimes I just gotta talk it out & eventually I get there. Usually someone says something that trips my trigger to my brain & makes me think about it differently or see it from another angle, which is why I love these boards. I guess mainly I needed to remember that although Mis has had her moments where she's had me pulling my own hair out by the root... over all when the chips are down & I ask for a try, she does make effort. And I think the more I've tried approach & retreat the worse I've made things & if it's because the stuff makes her physically ill... she's had to protect herself. Who could blame her. I do understand it because I have enough allergies to sink a gigantic ship.
Mis has taught me a great deal & if fly spray is a deal breaker - especially if it makes her ill - then hands down, we'll find another way. I grow my own herbs & have been looking at some of them & wondering. Nothing I'm growing's harmful to the skin so I may play with some of that & see if any of it grosses out flies. Thus far nothing even comes near my mint plants. If ya'll see on the 6 o'clock news some crazy lady has decorated her gray horse with herbal leaves... you'll know who it is  
Necessity is generally the mother of invention so I'm hoping. 
Back to T-touch, I guess I wasn't ready before but now that I am it's certainly made a difference in my time with my horses. I need to devote more time to Gunny. Yesterday wasn't a good Gunny day.
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imagele
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| PasoBaby_CarolU wrote: |
Perhaps you can find a holistic or natural fly repellent that she wouldn't mind, or put one of the clip on repellent things on a break away neck rope or something.
Good luck. And kudos for you putting the horse first. |
I wont put man made chemicals on or in my animals most of the time. The smell of things like the flea spot ons make me feel ill everytime the animal comes anywhere near me (closer than about 20 feet) for a couple of weeks after they are applied. If it makes me feel that bad from a distance I figure it must not be doing not good things to them.
My background prior to what I do now (kinesiology/reiki master) was Chemical Engineering. When you know from the inside what a couple of different chemical companies knew about some of the chemicals I was working with and what they didn't pass on to the general public until they are forced to do so years afterwards.... It does not tend to make me trust what it says on the packaging for things like wormers, flysprays, ag chemicals etc too often. Most of those chemicals are designed to kill an organic lifeform. Just because we are not exactly the same lifeform does not mean it is OK for us or our animals to ingest those chemicals in any way despite what the chemlcal and drug companies tell you it is safe to use.
A lot of those chemicals are based on natural ones found (often) in some plant or another. I have also had some rather nasty reactions to things like essential oils. And they were real oils being sprayed about that time, not man made scents designed to mimic the real thing.
One of my horses reacts quite badly too to some oils. We have a few natural fly sprays available commercially here. My mare comes up in welts if I spray or wipe either of the two brands I currently have directly onto her. Even much more diluted than the recommendations is too much for her - she still comes up in welts. She is the horse who has been least exposed to wormers, injections etc throughout her life. My other horses were never affected by the natural fly sprays but she was. She did a real song and dance routine about not wanting them on her too the first time I tried either of them. As it turned out she was right to do that. One of them also comes as a cream, I can put that on her mane and tail and she is OK with contact that way but I dont use it on her body at all.
What does work for her is Neem oil. I dont like the smell of it much (a friends son starts vomiting everytime he smells it) but Neem oil does appear to help repel the flies we get here (at least for a short period of time).
Robin if you already grow your own herbs why not just give your horses regular access to them and see what they choose for themselves ? I would recommend not letting the horses free range in your herb garden though. I tried that once thinking it would be the easy way to do it. I put a selection of herbs in pots and put the pots in what I thought was a secure container in their paddock. Every single plant got ripped out of the pot and chewed up - roots and all - in less than 12 hours. I went out the next morning and the pots were all scattered everywhere.
I either pick the herbs from the garden and offer them or I have a selection of dried herbs in containers under shelter for them to eat. It is quite interesting to watch who eats what, and how much and then go back and research what it is for. They all prefer something different usually. Same goes for their minerals. |
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