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Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
Reading with interest about Kelsey adding bleach to the horses' water trough to encourage them to drink.

I'm reluctant to experiment with my horses only source of water in this heat.  So I'm asking for clarification:

    Does brand of bleach make a difference?
    How much bleach per gallon of water?  
    We are on city chlorinated water...would that make a difference as to how much bleach we would add, or should we add bleach at all?  
    Would apple cider vinegar be another option to encourage my horses to drink?


Thank you for your suggestions!

Hope
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
This sounds potentially dangerous - why are your horses not drinking enough? How do you know?
Disinfection of water can be done by adding 2 drops of bleach per gallon. But bleach is toxic. I am reasonably sure there are better ways to encourage drinking, but be sure you need to do it first!
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
WE DIDN'T DO IT SO THEY WILL DRINK MORE WATER.  We did it to control algae.  Water is clear, and the biproduct is the horses seem to be drinking more water.  Not huge amounts, just a bit more.  We don't put in a lot, just a little in a 50 gal tank.  
Lol, we were at Walmart debating the name brand over the Walmart brand.  Nothing too good for our horses!  They got Clorox.  Now kids, no one is telling you to go out and do what we do.  K?  Some folks use fish to control algae, some a tiny bit of bleach, some don't use anything.  Zup to you!
We are using well water, although I don't know about city water.  
I googled it, and this came up for PEOPLE.  

When boiling is not practical, certain chemicals will kill most harmful or disease-causing organisms.
For chemical disinfection to be effective, the water must be filtered and settled first.Chlorine and iodine are the two chemicals commonly used to treat water. They are somewhat effective in protecting against exposure toGiardia, but may not be effective in controlling more resistant organisms like Cryptosporidium. Chlorine is generally more effective than iodine in controlling Giardia, and both disinfectants work much better in warm water.

You can use a non-scented, household chlorine bleach that contains a chlorine compound to disinfect water.
Do not use non-chlorine bleach to disinfect water. Typically, household chlorine bleaches will be 5.25% available chlorine. Follow the procedure written on the label. When the necessary procedure is not given, find the percentage of available chlorine on the label and use the information in the following table as a guide. (Remember, 1/8 teaspoon and 8 drops are about the same quantity.)

Available Chlorine Drops per Quart/Gallon of Clear Water Drops per Liter of Clear Water  
1% 10 per Quart - 40 per Gallon 10 per Liter
4-6% 2 per Quart - 8 per Gallon (1/8 teaspoon) 2 per Liter
7-10% 1 per Quart - 4 per Gallon 1 per Liter

So you see, bleach is not "dangerous", unless you are doing shots.  K?  We have to watch Bit, she REALLY wants the straight stuff.  I'm going to find her behind the barn, bleach in a paper bag, jobless, no friends...she'll need a 12 step program, but I don't think she's ready.  She isn't admitting she has a problem.  Eclipse is talking to her, but you know addicts.  Really sad.  We are going to have to do an intervention, I just know it.  
edited to add:  I'll ask Kelsey to add her infinite wisdom when she gets on the computer later.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
We scrub ours out once a week with Dawn dish soap.........but would be nice not to have to. Bit, do you know how little she puts in ? I have a 40 gallon container.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
Like Gideon said.If you were disinfecting water( for people to drink) add 2 drops per gallon. I used less than a tablespoon for a 70 gal. tank and have no algae. Tried the goldfish and algae eaters in the past.  I think ya must need a whole tank of fish to keep our algae low...it is there even in the winter when we run the tank heater. But we do have well water. Maybe that makes a difference? But not having to scrub that monster all the time is great! Thanks Kelsey!!!!!!!!
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
If we feel like they need more water (winter time) add a bottle of Gateraid.
We have well water and clean out the troughs every week or so as needed
Note:   Red loves to chew the algae off the top edge of the trough.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
We're on a well & we don't use any bleach.  We can have a lot of algae in our tanks so we do use the pressure washer once a month, squirt it out with the water hose in between.

I don't like adding things like bleach - which is why I turned down 'city water' & drilled my own well.  Horses drink from rivers, creeks, & ponds.  I didn't have any luck with fish in the tanks.  I had a horse that kept taking them out.  Then there was the whole feel-bad-festival for the poor dead algae eater who wasn't fast enough to escape a mare named Molly  

I have a gallon of DynaSpark (from the Dynamite company).  I've got a mare that's really touchy about anything added to water so I drizzle it over her feed.  Very small amount.  We have no water consumption issues so long as we don't get a drowned squirrel in the water trough.  We put a pan out for the wildlife to keep 'em out of the trough but there's a nutball in the group every time who just has to try it!
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
Bleach is used all the time for human drinking water.  I am not sure what the concentration is, but Deb's number sounds right.  Bleach is sodium hypochlorite and is toxic, BUT it all depends on the concentration!  A little is toxic to microbes (why it issued to purify water), a lot more can be toxic to other life forms.   Almost anyone on a public culinary system has bleach added to the water.  

Now, I'm not so sure cleaning a trough of algea gets the horses to drink more.  I'll clean one and refill it, and the horses go drink out the disgusting one in the next coral.    
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
I scrub off the algae with a wire brush and paint scraper.  I don't like to use cleaning agents or bleach, but I'm chemically sensitive  and my horse is proving to be sensitive too.  To get them to drink more water I'd consider Gismo's suggestion of Gatorade!  Never heard of that one before. Or a little molasses works well (though I don't like to give my horses molasses most of the time).
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
http://extension.missouri.edu/webster/webster/agric/algae-control.html
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
I don't question the use of bleach for disinfecting, I question its use for encouraging drinking more. Knowing the human propensity to not read directions, and to think "Hey, if a little is good, more is better!", best to look at something non-toxic to bring 'em to the trough.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
WE DO NOT PUT BLEACH IN THE WATER SO THE HORSES WILL DRINK MORE.  wE PUT BLEACH IN THE WATER TO KEEP OUT THE ALGAE.  
Jeeze guys, read the whole post.  This is just about algae control, nothin' else.  

best to look at something non-toxic to bring 'em to the trough.

We do not use bleach to bring horses to the trough, we do use a lead rope on occasion.  This is just about algea, not water consumtion.  
Kelsey did use a really cool product that is used by the us olympic team to encourage horses to hydrate.  I think a lot of endurance riders use it.  I'll have her stop by and post about it.  The only time I have ever seen Gunner kick some serious butt was to protect his bucket of the stuff.  He LOVES it.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
Hey!  Thanks for all of the responses!  

The bleach in the water captured my curiosity as I have a 29yo horse that never drinks as much as I'd like to see him drink.  He has his own water bucket, that the others cannot reach, near where he likes to stand during the day in the barn.  He does drink it dry during the day.  He still has two other water sources that are not as easy for me to monitor his intake.

I have two 150 gal troughs that I keep 5" to 6" of water in the bottom to freshen everyday.  One inside the run-in and one outside that seems to turn green overnight.  I've found that dumping then pulling the algaed trough out into the sunshine, then putting water and dosing with a generous amount of vinegar for the day usually cleans it without scrubbing.  

All four of mellow fellows seem to be doing fine.  They're spending the heat of the day in the run-in to the dry lot in front of their fans.  At night they're given access to the grass pasture.  I rotate them between two grass pastures of probably 5-6 acres each.  The remaining acres is growing grass for them to graze upon this winter.

Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
BIT ! Read the first post! "Reading with interest about Kelsey adding bleach to the horses' water trough to encourage them to drink. " That's what I read, see? I get it that you don't do it for that reason! Is this some hangover off another thread I didn't read? I dunno. I'm going to bed now, talk amongst yourselves, keep it down.
Bleach in water trough ... will my horses drink more?
Bit!  Thank you for clarifying that the bleach was intended for clearing the algae.  That your horses liked it was an unexpected benefit.  

Nancy...thank you for the University of Missouri Extension link!

Hope

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